1.3  Abraham Kidd (pre1802…)
[Fermanagh, Ireland]

Abraham Kidd, born in Ireland between c1793 and 1802, was the third known son of ABRAHAM and MARGARET KIDD of Corrylongford, Fermanagh. He was known living in 1807. [The Abraham Kidd who died in Armagh on 7 January 1852 does not appear to be related].

Two of the Brooke Deeds aforelisted [with additional detail per Tim Taylor's papers (Sep2014)] relate to Abraham Kidd:
The Brooke Deeds list:

D998/26/217 : 29 Oct. 1803 Lease from Henry Brooke, Colebrooke, Co. Fermanagh, to Ann Lendrum, Cleen, Co. Fermanagh, of 9a. 3r. 34p. of Cleen Co. Fermanagh, for the lives of Jane Graham [second daughter of John Graham junior], Lucy Lendrum [daughter of widow Lendrum of Cleen] and Abraham Kidd [son of Abraham Kidd of Corrylongford]: (1) Rent £13 10s. 11d.; (2) Receivers fees 12 pence per pound; (3) Thirteen days work of man and horse and thirteen hens, or tenpence in lieu of each days work and fourpence in lieu of each hen; and, (4) Corn, etc, to be ground at mill of Henry Brooke, payment for not doing so £5.
Tim Taylor's papers (Sep2014) note “The name Lendrum is noteworthy as it was the maiden name of Jane Alexander's mother”.

D998/26/256 : 19 Mar. 1807 Lease from Henry Brooke, Colebrooke, Co. Fermanagh, to Patrick Keenan, Stripe, Co. Fermanagh, of 18a. 10p. of Altawark, called Stripe, Co. Fermanagh, for the lives of Philip Keenan, James Keenan and Abraham Kidd [third son of Abraham Kidd of Corrylongford]: (1) Rent £22 11s. 51/2d.; (2) Receivers fees nil; (3) Twenty-two days work of man and horse and twenty-two hens or tenpence in lieu of each days work and fourpence in lieu of each hen; and, (4) Corn, etc, to be ground at mill of Henry Brooke, payment for not doing so £5.

 

1.4 ♦ John Kidd (1803c…1852) m. Sophia Matilda Oughton (1808c…1853)
[Fermanagh, Ireland → England (Kent, Hampshire, Royal Navy) → Victoria, Australia]

The significant unsolicited contributions of Graeme Broxham of Canberra, act Australia, 1 February 2004 [Navarine Publishing, P. O. Box 1275, Woden ACT 2606. +61 2 6282 4602], in the identification of the younger children of John and Sophia Kidd, the forebears of Sophia and the fate of herself and her two youngest, is most gratefully acknowledged. Likewise, I am indebted to key research provided by Margaret Crispin of Deception Bay, Queensland, Kellie-Ann Weber and others. Rob Bulford has contributed a great deal, notably with searches of on-line digitized newspaper archives [especially British], including a sole reference noting John Kidd as from Fermanagh, a strong fit to Tim Taylor's John Kidd, baptised at Aghalurcher, Fermanagh 16 March 1802, but not definite.

John Kidd was probably born and raised in Northern Ireland; he was “uncle of Abraham Kidd, M.D., of Ballymena”, Co Antrim, Northern Ireland. John appears to have been the fourth the third known son, born c1802, of ABRAHAM and MARGARET KIDD of Corrylongford, Fermanagh. John studied medicine in Dublin and Edinburgh, and was in the Royal Navy when he became a Member of The Royal College of Surgeons [of England], of which he was later a Fellow. The Edinburgh Advertiser on 20 May 1823 reported “SURGEONS' HALL. EDINBURGH, May 15,1823 Since Candlemas last, the following gentlemen have appeared before the Royal College of Surgeons, and having produced certificates of their having completed the course of study prescribed by the College, and being admitted on examination, have been found fully qualified to practise the arts of Anatomy, Surgery, and Pharmacy, and received diplomas accordingly :- … FROM IRELAND. … John Kidd, . . Fermanagh".

John Kidd was appointed an Assistant Surgeon in the Royal Navy on 27 May 1823, later serving aboard the Hyperion at the Jamaica station and on the Valorous. On 13 September 1826 was promoted to Surgeon (Acting). He was appointed Surgeon to the sloop Pearl in June 1834. In January 1840 John Kidd was on half-pay. On 4 May 1843 John Kidd was posted to the Castor attached to the East Indies station, in 1846 in New Zealand. John Kidd also served as Surgeon Superintendent aboard the Whitby, Egyptian, Emma Eugenia, Nile II and Stebonheath.

Dr John Kidd, Surgeon, RN, married Sophia Matilda Oughton at St Leonards, Hythe, Kent, on 15 July 1829; he was then 28 years old and she was 21. Witnesses were S. Steward and ?Geo. ?V. Oughton. John and Sophia's marriage was also listed in The United Service Journal and Naval and Military Magazine, 1829, Part II [volume 1870, issue 3], p262: " married. … July 15th. At Hythe, John Kidd, Esq. R.N. to Sophia Matilda, daughter of G. V. Oughton, Esq. R.N.."

Nota Bene: Prior to February 2004 this author considered that Sophia may have been the daughter of Rear-Admiral JAMES OUGHTON, RN. Information from Graeme Broxam (pers comm, 31 January 2004) precludes this relationship.

Graeme Broxam (pers comm, 1 February 2004) noted that a Sophia Matilda Outon was christened in June 1808 at Holy Trinity, Exeter, Devon, daughter of GEORGE and SOPHIA OUTON . They were presumably the George Voller Outon and Sophia Searley married at St Marys, Portsea on 5 July 1803. George and Sophia later had sons Sidney and Henry christened at St Johns, Portsea in June 1809 and February 1812, respectively. George Voller Outon, son of Richard and Sarah Outon, was born March 1782 and christened in September 1789 at South Hayling, Hampshire. It would follow that George may have been the witness at Sophia Matilda's marriage to John Kidd. George Voller Oughton, aged 69 years, was buried on 3 October 1854 at the Royal Garrison Church, Southsea, Hampshire (south on the same peninsular from Portsea). Sophia Searley was christened on 9 August 1778 at Alverstoke, Hampshire, the daughter of Edward and Mary Searley. Edward Searley had married Mary Littlefield on 6 December 1761 at Alverstoke.

This leaves unresolved any relationship between Sophia Matilda Oughton and Rear Admiral James Oughton, RN. A newspaper notice regarding the second (1891) marriage of Sophia's grandson Thomas George [Dunbar Oughton] Kidd noted Thomas as a "grandson of Dr John Kidd RN and great-grandson of the late Admiral Oughton of Portsmouth". James Oughton was superannuated as a Rear Admiral [Yellow Flag] about 1825 and died in 1832 in Banffshire, and despite a distinguished career as Post Captain would be an unlikely candidate for assumed ancestory unless more directly known to Sophia. Though a considerable amount is known about him, there is no direct evidence that he either married or had children. Any acquaintance would have been in her formative years.

 

John and Sophia Kidd had at least five children, including:

• THOMAS GEORGE KIDD (born 24 March 1830 at Bridge, Kent, England, baptised 15 June 1831 at Bridge, Kent, the son of John (Surgeon, R.N.) and Sophia Matilda, of Bridge; died pre1867 ?NSW; married Elizabeth Margaret Openshaw in Hobart, Tasmania, in 1852, five known children; in 1867 the widowed Elizabeth Margaret Kidd née Openshaw married mariner James Hewitt, with at least three issue [Elizabeth died in NSW in 1893]),
• JOHN OUGHTON KIDD (born c1832, Hampshire ENG – apparently the birth referred to in The Nautical Magazine, Volume 1 [March 1832], p335: “On the 29th June, at Southsea, the lady of John Kidd, Esq., surgeon, R.N. of a son”, the Hampshire Telegraph and the Hampshire Advertiser; alive in 1858; served in the Royal Navy from 1851 – appointed a mate in the Wolverine on the North America and West Indies station in 1854 [at the time of the Crimean War]),
  
• GEORGE FREDERICK KIDD (born circa 1833 [probable reference in The United Service Magazine, Pt. 3 (p431): "Sept.29. [1833] … At Swiss Cottage, Bembridge, Isle of Wight, the Lady of J. Kidd, Surgeon, R.N. of a son"], Hampshire; died 29 November 1852, Collingwood VIC),
• SOPHIA MARGARET KIDD* (born January 1841 and christened in March 1841, St Mary’s, Portsea Hampshire; likely to have perished aboard the Madagascar when it disappeared in late 1853, ex Melbourne for London),
• HENRY BARNETT KIDD* (born 3 March 1843, christened in July 1843 at St Mary's, Portsea, father noted as a Royal Navy Surgeon resident at Buckland; Henry is likely to have perished aboard the Madagascar when it disappeared in 1853)
  [* per Graeme Broxam (pers comm, 1 February 2004)].
  
  Another possible, early, issue to John and/or Sophia, mentioned by Kellie-ann Weber [May 2005], Margaret Crispin [2007, 2011], and others, was:
  
• GEORGE HENRY SEYMOUR (born 1832, Bridge, Kent; died 1902, Queensland; married Mary Galvin, with issue).
  [For further details of George Henry Seymour, refer below]..

The census taken 6 June 1841 shews Sophia's parents George and Magdalena Oughton in Green Lane, Portsea Town, Portsmouth, Hampshire, John and Sophia Kidd and family at North End, Kingston, Portsea Town and George and Magdalena's son Frederic along with his half-nephew Thomas Kidd, son of John and Sophia, two of twenty-one boy pupils at Wm Prince's nearby school:

Name	Position	Marital Status	Age	Occupation	Born in County	eYoB
Borough of Portsmouth, Parish of Portsea / Green Lane [1 inhabited dwelling] [HO107/414/6, folio 21, page 5, lines 3-5; GSU#288811]
George V Oughton	Head	Married	55	Purser, R.N.	No	1786
Magdalena Oughton	Wife	Married	50	.	No, Scotland	1791
Harriet Gilbert	Serv	.	26	Hotel waiter	Yes	1815
Borough of Portsmouth, Parish of Portsea / Green Lane [1 occ. dwelling]) [HO107/413/4, folio 10, page 15, lines 1-6; GSU#288810
John Kidd	Head	Married	38	Navy	No, Ireland	1803
Sophia Kidd	Wife	Married	33	.	Yes	1808
John Kidd	Son	.	9	.	Yes	1832
George Kidd	Son	.	8	.	Yes	1833
Sophia Kidd	Dau	.	4m	.	Yes	1841
Ann Wickford	Serv	.	13	.	Yes	1828
Borough of Portsmouth, Parish of Portsea / Norfolk Place [1 occ. dwelling] [HO107/414/2, folio 32, page 17, lines 2; GSU#288811]
Fredk. Oughton	.	.	12	Pupil	No	1829
Thomas Kidd	.	.	10	Pupil	No	1831

John Kidd R.N. migrated to Australia in 1851 aboard the emigrant ship Stebonheath; it was to be his last sea voyage. The Melbourne newspaper Argus noted that he came with his wife (“lady”) and family. John Kidd was soon appointed quarantine medical officer in the port of Melbourne. However, only six weeks after arriving in Victoria aboard the Stebonheath intending to settle, he died of apoplexy in Melbourne on 1 February 1852, aged 48 years, only six weeks after arriving in Victoria aboard the Stebonheath intending to settle. At the time of his death John was living in Bourke street, Melbourne. He was buried next day after a service at St Peter’s Church of England, MelbourneHe was buried next day after a service at St Peter’s Church of England, elbourne. John Kidd was survived by his wife and five children.

It appears that Sophia Matilda Kidd née Oughton was, with children Sophia and Henry, aboard the ship Madagascar which departed Melbourne in August 1853 bound for London, and was never seen again. Graeme Broxam (pers comm, 31 January 2004) eMailed that he was researching the disappearance in 1853 between Melbourne and London of the 835 ton 1837 built ship Madagascar. The Madagascar departed Melbourne in August 1853 with 110 passengers and a cargo of wool, et cetera, and £25,000 worth of gold. Amongst her passengers were a Mrs Kidd (aged 43), a daughter aged 13 and a son aged 10. Graeme noted that, given the time taken between birth and christening, Sophia Margaret Kidd could well have been 13 if she boarded the Madagascar. Henry Barnett Kidd would have been 10; Mrs Sophia Matilda Kidd would have been 45.

Also aboard the Madagascar as a passenger was Captain William Garner and his wife; Garner had been the apparently indifferent master of the Earl of Charlemont as it went onto a reef off The Bluff near Barwon Heads, Victoria, on 18 June 1853. The Earl of Charlemont, a three-masted wooden ship of 945/883 tons, built at St. John, New Brunswick, Canada, in 1849, measured 147.8 x 30.6 x 22.7 ft. Inward bound from Liverpool with 435 emigrants in fog, went ashore through breakers and onto the reef; three boats were launched in an attempt to get a line to shore but all capsized, leaving their crews to struggle'ashore. Other members of the crew clambered down the chains, along the fallen mast, then swam ashore. An undamaged lifeboat was slung to a line by the bow and stern like a cradle, enabling the passengers to land - ladies and children first, then the invalids, married men, single men, and last of all the captain. One passenger died from shock soon after the vessel struck. Pilot Schooner Anonyma and vessel Boomerang attended the wreck. Although a Steam Navigation Board Inquiry decided that Captain Garner and his officers had seemed indifferent to the safety of the ship and the welfare of the passengers, no action was taken. Some believed that the ship was deliberately wrecked to obtain insurance money, and witnesses claimed that the master stood quietly and unconcerned on deck smoking a cigar as the Earl of Charlemont headed for certain destruction on a beautifully clear night with the land distinctly seen. The wreck site, directly beneath Barwon Heads Bluff beacon, is very shallow and often sanded over. Divers have recovered bottles, crockery and cutlery. An anchor was raised in 1972 and is now on display beside the Barwon River at Barwon Heads (source: the Encyclopedia of Australian Shipwrecks WebSite). For an image of the Blackwall Frigate Madagascar, c1853, rf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_%28ship%29.

Graeme Broxam (1 February 2004 ) wrote :

The ship Madagascar, 953 tons, cleared out with Customs at Melbourne for London on 9 August 1853 with about 110 passengers, and unknown number of crew and a cargo of wool, etc., and some 60,590 oz of gold. On the following day, there was a police raid on board and three of a part of bushrangers who had shot up the Melbourne Private Escort Company's M'Ivor-Kyneton escort three weeks earlier were arrested. The Madagascar finally sailed on the 12th, but failed to arrive. Due to the sensational nature of her departure many rumours that part of the crew/passengers had mutinied, murdered the rest, scuttled the ship and made off with the gold added to the usual ones of spontaneous combustion of her wool, hitting an iceberg, or getting wrecked in all sorts of odd places where she had no reason to be. It was the great 19th century shipping mystery before the Marie Celeste.
The legend was revived around 1910 when a story circulated that a woman who had recently died in New Zealand had confessed to being the last survivor, being one of a few young women taken off the ship by the mutineers before setting fire to the ship. There is a lot of detail in the story that could only be known to a person well acquainted with Brazil (where the mutiny is supposed to have taken place) and many writers have claimed this proves it is true and we have solved the mystery of the Madagascar.
I have only just managed to locate the outward shipping list in Victorian Archives (I already had a copy of the agent's list that had some "difficulties.") I am now trying to identify all the passengers and … crew as well in my own efforts to prove that such a mutiny was highly UNlikely … . As mentioned earlier, there was a "Mrs Kidd" (no Christian name in either passenger list) aged 43, with a son aged 10 and a daughter aged 13 on board. The official passenger list has been comprehensively corrected, I suspect by Melbourne police at the time of the arrests on 10/11 August, trying to identify any other miscreants, with many ages scribbled over and corrected. There is a lot of "scribbling" on the Kidd names but "Mrs Kidd" appears to be 43, "Master" 10 and "Miss" 13.

Sophia's son Thomas Kidd was involved with the McIvor incident. He was the Lieutenant in Charge of the Police Department at the Heathcote Camp (ie McIvor goldfields) at the time of the robbery and sent a brief note to the Chief Commissioner of Police in Melbourne on the day of the robbery [per Grame Broxram, 11feb2004, citing Victorian Archives VRPS Series 937, Unit 259, Bundle 4). Those involved in the robbery on 28 July 1853, durung which the coach driver was fatally wounded and the escort driven off, were thought to have included George 'Frenchy' Melville, an ex-convict from Tasmania aged thirty-one; William Atkins, another ex-convict aged twenty-eight; George Wilson, aged thirty-two; John and Joseph Francis who used the alias of 'John' and 'Jeremiah Murphy'; Joe Grey alias 'Nutty'; Bob Harding; Ned McIvoy; George Elson: and a man named 'Billy". John Francis and George Wilson were arrested with their wives aboard the Madagascar in Hobson's Bay. [Source: Glen Rowen Cobb & Co Pty Ltd's WebSite on Australian Bushrangers - George Melville (11feb2004)]

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Other Kidds appear in the Navy Lists around this time — John Kidd, a master taking his Commission on 9 May 1782; Thomas Kidd, as an Assistant Surgeon on 8 December 1806; William Lodge Kidd, as a Surgeon on 20 October 1807 (?? and as an Assistant Surgeon on 29 October 1782??); and Thomas Kidd as an Assistant Surgeon on 31 March 1828 and as Surgeon on 20 July 1835 (this Thomas Kidd's name was constantly suffixed with a (b) in the Lists). By 1841 and until at least 24 June 1852 W Lodge Kidd MD was listed as unfit for service – probably a reflection of his seaworthiness rather than his medical abilities. In 1845, although unfit for service at sea, he was the Inspector of Armagh Gaol and Lunatic Asylum. By 1856 all the Surgeons Kidd had disappeared from the Lists. In the late 1840s there was also a John O Kidd and a Thomas O Kidd as Masters. It was not uncommon for Royal Navy Surgeons or Assistant Surgeons to also be Assistant Masters or Masters, though there is no direct indication of that situation here. The Indus brought a J Kidd and family to Australia on 15 March 1840; he may have been the master.]

1.4.1 ♦ Thomas George Kidd (1830…1864-67?) m. Elizabeth Margaret Openshaw (1834…1893)
[Bridge, Kent and Hampshire, England →Victoria, Aust. → Tasmania →Sydney NSW]

Thomas George Kidd was born 24 March 1830 at Bridge, Kent, the son of naval surgeon JOHN KIDD, R.N., and his wife SOPHIA MATILDA OUGHTON, of Bridge, was baptised by Richard Baldock on 15 June 1831 at Bridge. Surgeon.

Thomas was issued a Register Ticket [#434,085] as a seaman at London on 3 October 1848, noting his date and place of birth, his age as 18, and confirmed that he could write. He was 5' 8", with light hair, fair complexion, hazel eyes and no [distinguishing] marks. Thomas stated that he had first gone to sea as a Midshipman, in 1845, and had served in the Royal Navy, though not in foreign service. When unemployed, he resided in Belfast. [Thomas' Register entry is marked “Cancelled. St[ated] lost. Recvd. 365,192”: that Ticket number is also entered in a summary register detailing Kidd mariners.].

It is possible that Thomas George Kidd (born c1830) ['mariner'] could have been the Thomas Kidd, midshipman, R.N. of the Apollo, son of Dr. Kidd, R.N., involved in an cigar-'smuggling' incident reported in the London Morning Post 2 of May 1848 (p7) and the Nautical Standard and Steam Navigation Gazette of 6 May 1848 (p305). The Nautical Standard & Steam Navigation Gazette, 10 June 1848, (p377) noted Midshipman Thomas Kidd appointed to the Sharpshooter.

Thomas, aged 22, bachelor mariner of Hobart Town, Tasmania, and Elizabeth Margaret Openshaw, aged 17, were married on 15 July 1852 at her father's house in Hobart Town TAS. Elizabeth, born in eastern Canada in 1834, was the younger daughter of THOMAS OPENSHAW and MARY JANE McBRIEN.

Thomas’ occupation and residence changed somewhat between 1852 and 1859. In July 1852, at the time of his marriage, he was described as a mariner resident Hobart in southern Tasmania. Two and a half months later he was appointed as a cadet to the Victoria Police Force which was recruiting cadet "…thief-catchers, not soldiers … Brains, brains, brains, we repeat, are what we want, and not mere firearms and muscle". Thomas was one of the first recruits selected for the cadets; he was also one of the few to gain promotion to the Officer ranks. He was the Lieutenant in Charge of the Police Department at the Heathcote Camp (ie McIvor goldfields) at the time of the M'Ivor-Kyneton gold escort robbery and sent a brief note to the Chief Commissioner of Police in Melbourne on the day of the robbery. Three weeks later the police boarded the Madagascar, which had departed Melbourne on 9 August 1853 bound for London, and apprehended three people sought in regard to the robbery. Thomas' mother Sophia Matilda Kidd, and his younger siblings Sophia Margaret Kidd and Henry Barnett Kidd, were passengers in the Madagascar, repatriating to England. Continuing its passage, the Madagascar disappeared with passengers, crew and cargo (which included 60,590 oz of gold.)

Thomas resigned from the Victorian force on 31 August 1854, after a year and eleven months of service. By November 1857 it seems that Thomas was a “gentleman” possibly near Launceston in northern Tasmania. This was period when the Bushranger were a significant problem in Tasmania. Tasmanian police service records shew reveal that Thomas Kidd was stationed at Georgetown [on the eastern bank of the mouth of the Tamar River, 42½ km north-nor'west of Launcetson] on 1 April 1858; he was 28 years old, 5” 9’ tall, and married. Of Irish origin [though baptised in 1831 at Bridge, Kent], he had previously (1852) served with the Victoria Police. Rob Bulford [pers comm, 06jun2013] notes Thomas “… was the Chief District Constable and also, later, the Inspector of Stock and the Inspector of Weights and Measures, at Georgetown from about April 1858”.

Thomas is mentioned with praise on several occassions in some of the Tasmanian newspapers [Hobart's The Courier and The Hobart Town Daily Mercury, Launceston's The Cornwall Chronicle and Launceston Examiner] for leadership as a Chief District Constable in the apprehension of bushrangers including “Flowers” or “Ferns” “alias Tobby”, “one of Wingey's mates”, Sydney Jim, Sneeling (alias John Smith, Hellfire Jack and Jack the Hunter) and John Lovell at George Town in 1858 and at Oatlands in 1859: Thomas was transferred to Oatlands [in south-central Tasmania, 65km north of Hobart-Town and about 140km south of George Town, on the main north-south road linking Hobart and Launceston] on 1 February 1859: Rob Bulford [pers comm, 06jun2013] notes Thomas “… moved to Oatlands, … There he was Chief District Constable, and later also Town Surveyor at Oatlands, Inspector of Stock, and Examiner of Balances, Weights and Measures.” Oatlands.

Thomas resigned from the Police because of insolvency on 31 July 1859: Robert Bulford [pers comm, 06jun2013] notes he was was discharged from bankruptcy on 19 August 1859. Thomas was re-appointed on “special duties” on 18 August 1859 and finally discharged on 31 December 1859: his fourth child, Henry, was born in this period. The insolvency [involving creditors at George Town, including a proven debt of £23, presumably for medical expenses, to Dr. Casey, Launceston] appears to have precipitated a relocation to Sydney and a change in the family's standing and existence – generally, for some years, for the worse.

At least five, possibly six, children are accorded Thomas and Elizabeth Kidd [per revision in 2012 based on Elizabeth's 17 December 1893 death certificate], of which the first two may have been born Melbourne, the third and fourth in Tasmania and the last in Sydney:

• THOMAS GEORGE KIDD (born circa 1853 ['aged 9' on 28 April 1864 and noted as aged 40 on mother's 17 December 1893 death certificate]; died 1918 Hunters Hill NSW; married (1) Jeannie Buchannan (1862…1886) Rushcutter's Bay NSW in 1884, one issue; as Thomas George Dunbar Oughton Kidd married (2) Agnes Annie Newell (1855…1951) in 1891 in Sydney with two issue),
• male [JOHN FREDERICK] KIDD born 13 December 1855, Melbourne, Victoria, with birth registered in Hobart [apparently not noted on mother's death certificate] – this registration is consistent with his being John Frederick Kidd (born circa 1856, noted as 'aged 9' on 28 April 1864 and aged 37 on mother's death certificate); marriage to Agnes M Adam registered in Sydney in 1881, two known issue)),
• SYDNEY ARTHUR KIDD ("Arthur", born November 1857, ?Launceston TAS [possibly named after his maternal great-grandmother], 'aged 6' on 28 April 1864 and noted as aged 35 on mother's 1893 death certificate; probably the 'A C Kidd, brother, Hunter's Hill' who attested the particulars on Henry Burnett Kidd's 1909 death certificate),
• male [HENRY BARNARD] KIDD (born October 1859, Oatlands TAS ['aged 4' on 1 May 1864 and noted as aged 32 on mother's 1893 death certificate]; death registered as "Henry Burnett Kidd" at Hurstville NSW in 1909; as "Henry Bernard Kidd", married Maggie Ammean [Margaret Annen] in Sydney on 27 September 1884, with five issue) and
• SOPHIA MARY KIDD (born 16 February 1862, Sydney [noted as Sophia May, aged 30 on mother's 1893 death certificate], four living male siblings, father Thomas Kidd said to have been born in Kent, his current occupation "Police"; died aged 93 years at Maitland NSW in 1954; married Charles Henry Barsby (died at Randwick NSW in 1935; son of JOHN H and MARY A BARSBY) in Sydney, 1882i; two issue – Percy Rutland Barsby (born The Glebe, 1883; died Singleton NSW in 1946) and Myra A Barsby (born St Peters NSW, 1886); NSW Electoral Rolls shew Charles Henry Barsby [merchant] and Sophia Mary Barsby [home duties] at 9 Serpentine parade, Vaucluse, in 1930, Charles [retailer] and Sophia at 80 Bream street, Coogee, in 1933, Sophia only at 183 Avoca street, Randwick East, in 1936 and 1937; Sophia was at 32 William street, Singleton, in 1943; in 1943 Percy Rutland Barsby [draper] and Jean Miranda Barsby [home duties] were at William street, Singleton).
  *** according to a researcher [per eMail, 2012] Sophia May had some seven brothers.

Thomas and Elizabeth made their way to New South Wales, possibly together but perhaps as individuals. It seems to this author that Thomas secured passage to Sydney for himself and separately his family aboard the 285 ton burthen Hobart-Town registered ship Tasmania in 1860, Thomas travelling first, 'Steerage' [perhaps due to insolvency or ignominy?], probably to secure lodgings et cetera, with Elizabeth and the children following three months later: a “Mr Kidd” arrived in Sydney from 'Hobarton' in the Tasmania on 31 March 1860, travelling Steerage. [Another “T Kidd” arrived in Sydney from Melbourne in the City of Sydney on 2 February 1860, noted as a “Miner” [note: Robert Bulford [per eMail, 08jun2013] has him “Gentlefolk”: the 'Gentlefolk' bracketing ended with the entry above and the 'Miner' bracketing commenced with 'T Kidd' – an error perhaps, the both bracketings are clear]].

The Tasmania arrived again in Sydney on 25 June 1860 from the Port of Hobart Town: passengers included “Mrs Kidd & 4 Children”. Assuming this was Elizabeth Kidd née Openshaw, which seems likely, it suggests that Thomas travelled independently to Sydney, presumably after the August 1859 bankruptcy and arriving before say mid-June 1861 [allowing an eigth-month gestation for Sophia]. A Thomas Kidd was listed at 37 Mount-street, Pyrmont without occupation in the 1863 and 1864 Sands Directories: Sydney and New South Wales, Australia, 1858-1933.

Thomas joined the Sydney police, perhaps before March 1862, and was appointed as Senior Constable in Division A on 1 March 1862. From then Thomas' life, and that of the family, appears to have taken a decided turn for the worse. In December 1863 the Police Gazette listed him as an absconder, shortly thereafter advising warrants had been issued for his arrest on at least two serious charges of theft: it appears he was pursued at least until late 1865.

It is not known what became of Thomas George Kidd; it is stated that Elizabeth was a widow in 1867 when she married Joseph Hewitt in Sydney. Perhaps it was Thomas and Elizabeth referred to in Sydney's Empire of Tuesday 27 June 1865 (p5):
CENTRAL POLICE COURT.-MONDAY. On the summons sheet, six cases were heard, three of which were dismissed, no parties having appeared. The case, Kirschbaum v. Kirschbaum, was postponed until Thursday next. In the affiliation case Hayes v. Nicholls, no summons was served. In the case Kidd v. Kidd, for maintenance, the defendant was ordered to pay 15s. par week for twelve months, first payment on Monday next.

Between 27 April and 1 May 1864, the four boys - Thomas George Kidd (10), John Frederick Kidd (9), Arthur Sydney Kidd (6) and Henry Kidd (4) were admitted by Elizabeth to the Randwick Asylum for Destitute Children, “Received from Mother deserted by Father”: Sophia (2) was to young to be admitted and was prsumable kept by Elizabeth. [Thomas left the Asylum in October 1866, “Discharged. Apprenticed to Mr Carter Sailmaker Balmain”, John in November 1867, “Discharged to Mother with the consent of House of Committees”; Arthur in July 1871, “Apprenticed to the Society and re-apprenticed 14 June /73 to Mr Henry Page of Dubbo” and Henry in August 1874, “Apprenticed to Rev. F. G. Marshall of Mulgoa.”: the Asylum was not permitted to receive children under 3 years of age; it could release children to apprenticeships after attaining the age of twelve years].

The consent of Elizabeth to Sophia's marriage also implies that Thomas had deceased by 1882. A researcher [pers comm., 08jan2012] remarked: "Sophia May (not Mary as stated on her Marriage Cert.) Kidd, the daughter of Thomas Kidd & Elizabeth Openshaw … lived with us in Singleton until she died in Maitland Hospita ...l. She said she had about 7 brothers & she was the only girl. Her father Thomas was a doctor in Sydney & they lived in Pyrmont. After her father's death her mother remarried a man named Hewitt but I don't know his Christian name, although I do have a photo of him. Sophia was underage when she married ... Charles Henry Barsby but had her mother's written consent to marry. … Apparently, being the only girl in the family she was quite spoiled & her antics caused some anguish as well as mirth in the family."

Elizabeth, aged 31, married Joseph Hewitt in Sydney about 1867 according to her death certificate. This marriage was in  September 1867 at Scot's [Presbyterian] Church in Sydney and was registered as between bachelor mariner Joseph Hewitt, 26, usually resident “on board ship”, born at Kilmarnock, Scotland, to farmer JAMES HEWITT and MARY GILMOUR, and widow householder Elizabeth Marion King, 30, usually resident at Pyrmont, born in Halifax to 'officer in the ordinance' THOMAS WALKER and MARY McBRIEN [Particulars in Columns 5, 7, 9 and 10 – birthplace, age, parents' names and father's occupation – obtained, by Registrar (1915) from Church Register No. 309].

Elizabeth's status as 'widow' in September 1867 has not been corroborated: she had nominally last seen Thomas 45 months previously and no official registration of Thomas' demise or whereabouts after January 1864 has been located by researchers to date [2015]. In September 1867 Elizabeth had five children then aged between five and fourteen, the older four [sons Thomas George Kidd (14), John Frederick Kidd (approaching 12), Sydney Arthur Kidd (approaching 10) and Henry Barnard Kidd (approaching 8)] having been placed in the Randwick Asylum for Destitute Children, and her youngest [daughter Sophia Mary Kidd (4 years, 7 months)] still in her care [son Thomas had already been discharged from the Asylum, apprenticed to a Balmain sailmaker; John was discharged to the care of his mother in November 1867]. It had been colonial practice, at least to the mid-1830s, for transportees to be regarded as starting a new life in the colony [for example, they could officially enter a new marriage in the colony even if they had left a wife behind in Britain]. Perhaps it was the same in Elizabeth's case: a husband not seen or heard from for almost four years may have been presumed dead. However if her husband Thomas was not agreed to have been deceased and she had not divorced him, she would have been committing bigamy by her marriage to Joseph Hewitt. From the early 2000s, researchers have noted similarities in the backgrounds of Elizabeth's husband Thomas George Kidd and a George Henry Seymour who married in November 1865 in Townsville, Queensland, and died at Cloncurry, Queensland, in 1902. Additionally, two consecutive generations of Dr John Kidd's descendants share autosomal DNA with two descendants of George Henry Seymour.

James Hewitt, aged about 19, had married Mary Gilmour at Riccarton in Ayrshire, Scotland, on 24 July 1840, with at least ten issue resulting: Joseph Hewitt (born 27 February 1841, Kilmarnock, Ayr, christened 7 March 1841 at Riccarton), James Hewitt (born 1 January 1843, Kilmarnock, christened 15 January 1841, Riccarton), Ann Hewitt (born 12 March 1849, Kilmarnock, christened 1 April 1841, Riccarton), another James Hewitt (born [Kilmarnock] and/or christened 31 March 1851 [Riccarton]), Elizabeth Hewitt (born 23 February 1853, christened 18 March 1853 at Riccarton), Allan Gilmour Hewitt (born 28 May 1855, Kilmarnock), John Hewitt (born 18 January 1857, Kilmarnock), Andrew Gilmour Hewitt (born 28 February 1859), Jane Hewitt (born 14 August 1860) and Margaret Hewitt (born 2 June 1862).

The 1841 census gives James Hewitt as aged 20 at Riccarton, and also notes Joseph, aged “0”. In the 1851 census Joseph is aged 10 and the registration district is shown as Kyle, Ayrshire. In the 1861 census, James is shown as aged 40 and the registration district as “Part of The Quoad Sacra Parish of Larkhall”, County of Lanarkshire..

Elizabeth bore Joseph at least three issue:

• JAMES HEWITT (birth registered in Sydney in 1868 [noted as aged 25 on mother's death certificate]; perhaps his death registered at Newtown in 1906),
  
• ALLAN BOYD GALBRAITH HEWITT (birth registered in Sydney in 1871 [noted as aged 23 on mother's death certificate]) and
  
• JOSEPH GALBRAITH HEWITT (birth registered in 1874 in Sydney [mother listed as Elizabeth Marion; Joseph was not noted on mother's death certificate]; perhaps his death registered at Newtown in 1944 [mother's name not noted]).
  

Elizabeth Marion Hewitt formerly Kidd née Openshaw died aged 57 [viz: born c1836] at Carrington Avenue, Hurstville In Decembet 1893. Her husband Joseph detailed her father as Thomas Openshaw Walker, a military man, and her mother as Elizabeth McBrien. He noted that his wife had been born in Nova Scotia and had lived 35 years in the Australian colonies Victoria, Tasmania and New South Wales. She had married twice, firstly aged 17 [viz: c1853] in Hobart to Thomas Kidd, and secondly aged 31 [viz: c1867] to himself in Sydney. Joseph listed Thomas George (40), John Frederick (37), Arthur (35), Henry Bernard (32) and Sophia May (30) as the children of her first marriage and James (25) and Allan Boyd Galbraith (23) as the children of her marriage to himself. It appears he only listed the children that survived their mother.

Obviously, some of these names – Thomas Walker, Thomas Openshaw Walker, Elizabeth Marion King – present quite a conundrum. Sighting the original church records may help
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[The death of an Elizabeth Kidd, aged 20 months, daughter of Thomas Kidd and Elizabeth, on 16 November 1857 at sea aboard the ship Shakespeare, was registered in Victoria in 1858: the infant had been born in Toronto [presumably Canada] about March 1856. It is not clear whether she was related to this family.

The death of a Thomas C Kidd, son of JOHN and SOPHIA, was registered at Campbelltown in 1863. This was Capmbelltown-born infant Thomas Collier Kidd who died of Scarlatina aged 2 years and 2 months on 4 December 1863 at Campbelltown, the son of baker Thomas Kidd and Sophia formerly Collier; he was buried at Campbelltown.]

[Note also the death of an Elizabeth Kidd, aged 20 months, daughter of a Thomas Kidd and Elizabeth, on 16 November 1857 at sea aboard the ship Shakespeare, registered in Victoria Australia in 1858: the infant had been born in Toronto [presumably Canada] about March 1856. It is not clear whether she was related to this family].

Elizabeth was alive and aged 48 years in June 1883, as indicated on her father's New Zealand death certificate..

The Sydney Morning Herald on Saturday 23 December 1893 noted: "HEWITT -December l8, at Hurstville, Elizabeth Marion, loved mother of Thomas George Kidd." The NSW BDM Indexes note her parents as THOMAS O and ELIZABETH.

[The NSW BDM index has the 1945 death at Hornsby of John Ellis Kidd (parents Thomas and Elizabeth), the 1928 death at Hornsby of Agnes Kidd (parents Thomas and Elizabeth) and the 1928 death at Penrith of Margaret Kidd (parents Thomas and Elizabeth)].

1.4.1.1 ♦ Thomas George Dunbar Oughton Kidd (c1853…1918) m1. Jeannette Edith Buchanan (1862…1886), m2. Agnes Annie Newell (1855…1951)

Thomas George Kidd was born about 1853, probably in Victoria but perhaps in Tasmania, the son of ELIZABETH MARGARET OPENSHAW and her husband THOMAS GEORGE KIDD. His birthplace was noted as 'Victoria' on his death certificate, and 'Melbourne' on his (second) wedding certificate. His father was in the Victorian Police Force at least from 1 October 1852 until 31 August 1854, by November 1857 apparently a “gentleman” possibly near Launceston in northern Tasmania, by 1 April 1858 with the Tasmanian police service at George Town near Launceston, transferred to Oatlands in the Tasmanian midlands, and finally discharged on 31 December 1859.

It is likely that Thomas (6) and his siblings accompanied their mother from Hobart Town to Sydney aboard the 285 ton burthen ship Tasmania, arriving on 25 June 1860 – passengers included “Mrs Kidd & 4 Children” – possibly preceeded by thieir father: a “Mr Kidd” arrived in Sydney from 'Hobarton' in the Tasmania on 31 March 1860, travelling Steerage. According to his death certificate, Thomas G (D O) Kidd settled in NSW c1873.

In 1864 his father deserted the family: Thomas (10) was admitted were received into the Randwick Asylum for Destitute Children on 27 April 1864, followed next day by brothers John (aged 9) and Arthur Sydney (6), and younger brother Henry (4) on 1 May 1864. Their other, youngest, sibling, Sophia (2), apparently remained with her mother. While at the Asylum, Thomas won a prize, presented by Sir John Young, in an examination (370 candidates) on 20 January 1865].i Thomas left the Asylum on 17 October 1866, “Discharged. Apprenticed to Mr Carter Sailmaker Balmain.”

Thomas married twice, initially in New South Head Road at Rushcutter's Bay NSW on 9 April 1884 to Jeanne Buchanan (Janet Edith/ Jeanette/ Jeannie), daughter born in NSW in 1862 to JOHN BUCHANAN and his wife CATHERINE SULLIVAN. The Sydney Morning Herald of Wednesday 28 May 1884 noted:
           KIDD—BUCHANAN— April 6, Rushcutter's Bay, by the Rev. R. Steel, Thomas George Kidd to Jeannette Edith Buchanan.

To Thomas and Jeanette was born one child, a daughter:

• AILEEN GLADYS KIDD (Queenie”, born 13 April 1885, The Sydney Morning Herald of Saturday 18 April 1885 (p1) noting: “KIDD.—April 13, at her residence, 57, Pyrmont-street, Pyrmont, the wife of T. G. Kidd, of a daughter.”; died 26 May 1886, The Sydney Morning Herald of Friday 28 May 1886 (p1) noting: "KIDD.—May 26, at her parents' residence, Burwood-road, Enfield, Aileen Gladys (Queenie), only beloved child of T. G. and Jeannie Kidd, aged 14 months.”)).

Jeanette died on 25 August 1886 at Enfield NSW, soon after her daughter's death. There were several notices in The Sydney Morning Herald regarding Jeanette's funeral:

      The Sydney Morning Herald, Thursday 26 August 1886 (p14)
THE FRIENDS of Mr. THOMAS GEORGE KIDD are respectfully informed the Funeral of his late beloved WIFE, Jeanette, eldest daughter of John Buchanan, of Rushcutter Bay, will leave her late residence, Burwood-road, Enfield, TO-MORROW (Friday) AFTERNOON, at 3 o'clock for St. Thomas' Cemetery, Enfield. WOOD and CO., 807, George-st.
      The Sydney Morning Herald, Friday 27 August 1886 (p12)
THE FRIENDS of Mr. THOMAS GEORGE KIDD are respectfully informed the Funeral of his late beloved WIFE, Jeanette, will leave her late residence, Burwood-road, Enfield, THIS (Friday) AFTERNOON, at half-past 3 o'clock, for St. Thomas' Cemetery, Enfield. WOOD and COMPANY, Undertakers, 807, George-street South, and Darling-street, Balmain.
THE FRIENDS of THOMAS ' GEORGE KIDD are respectfully informed that the Funeral of his late beloved WIFE, Jeanette, will leave her late residence, Burwood-road, Enfield, THIS (Friday) AFTERNOON, at half-past 3 o'clock, for 8t. Thomas' Cemetery, Enfield. WOOD and CO., 807, George street.
THE FRIENDS of Mr. JOHN BUCHANAN, of Rushcutter Bay, are respectfully informed the Funeral of his late beloved DAUGHTER, Jeanette, will leave her late residence, Burwood-road, Enfield, THIS (Friday) AFTERNOON, at half-past 3 o'clock, for St. Thomas' Cemetery, Enfield. WOOD and CO., Undertakers. 807, George-street South, and Darling st., Balmain.
THE FRIENDS of JOHN BUCHANAN, Builder,
Rushcutter Bay, are respectfully informed that the funeral of his late beloved DAUGHTER, Jeanette, will leave her late residence, Burwood-road, Enfield, THIS (FRIDAY) AFTER- NOON, at half-past 3 o'clock, for St. Thomas' Cemetery, Enfield. WOOD and CO., 807, George-street..

It is possible the Thomas travelled to Melbourne (by train) in 1888, The Sydney Morning Herald noting in a long list on Tuesday 25 December 1888 (p5):
“OVERLAND PASSENGER TRAFFIC. [BY TELEGRAPH.] ALBURY, MONDAY. For Melbourne (express) : … T. G. Kidd (Hurstville), …"

Thomas was also involved in communtiy social activities, as evidenced by reports in the Australian Town and Country Journal of Saturday 29 June 1889 (p34) [M.C. at a dance at Rockdale] and Parramatta's The Cumberland Argus and Fruitgrowers Advocate of Saturday 30 November 1901 (p10) [contributing a song to a fund-raising concert in benefit of The Improvement Club at Hunter's Hill.

The widowed Thomas married again on 2 June 1891, at St Philip's Church of England, Sydney. His second wife was 26 year old Agnes Annie Newell ("Annie") of Newtown and Hurstville, eldest child and second daughter of ROBERT WILLIAM NEWELL and his wife ANNIE TALBOT. The Sydney Morning Herald of Monday 15 June 1891 (p3) noted:

KIDD-NEWELL.– June 2, at St. Philip's Church, Sydney, by the Rev. J D. Langley, Thomas George Kidd to Agnes Annie Newell.

Phillip King of Longueville forwarded (in 1990s) a contemporary handwritten note referring to the 1891 marriage of Thomas George Kidd (transcribed from The Sydney Morning Herald of Wednesday 3 June 1891, p1):

Kidd, Newell June 2nd. At St Phillips Church Sydney, by the Rev J. D. Langley, Thomas George, eldest son of the late Thos Kidd of Sydney, grandson of the late Dr J Kidd RN and great-grandson of the late Admiral Oughton of
Portsmouth to Agnes Annie eldest, daughter of Robt Newell, Collaroy, Peakhurst, Sydney.

[An accompanying newspaper cutting, of unknown significance but by inference published 14 November 1950, refers to:

Mr. William O'Connell Bligh, a great-grandson of Admiral Bligh, whose illness I mentioned recently, died at Lewisham hospital yesterday He was 91. Mr Bligh was a pioneer of the sheep industry in Queensland, but for the last 40 years has lived in retirement at Blackheath. Mr Bligh's sister, Mrs. A. Oakes, lives at Epping, Sydney. She is 93.

The Sydney Morning Herald of Tuesday 14 November 1950 (p24) noted:

BLIGH, William O'Connell.– November 13, 1950, at Lewisham Hospital, late of Blackheath, loving brother of Mrs. A R Oakes, of Epping, and great-grandson of the late Vice-Admiral William Bligh, aged 91 years.

Mrs A Oakes was born Alice R Bligh, and had married Percy S Oakes at Parramatta NSW in 1888. Alice’s birth had been registered at Grafton NSW in 1857, her parents being Richard and Maria Isabella Bligh. Other children baptised to Richard and Maria were Elizabeth M Bligh (CoE, Scone NSW, 1847), Richard J B Bligh (CoE, Scone, 1850), Edith A Bligh (CoE, Warialda NSW and St Peter’s CoE Armidale NSW, 1853: Edith married Percy’s brother Herbert H Oakes in Sydney during 1886), Neville Bligh (Presbyterian, itinerant service in south counties - Liverpool Plains NSW, 1855), the afore-mentioned William O’Connell Bligh (birth registered at Grafton in 1859) and Arthur F Bligh (Grafton, 1860). Percival Oakes’ birth had been registered at Bathurst NSW in 1860, ninth of twelve children born to Rowland H and Fanny H Oakes; the birth of his brother Herbert was registered at Balmain NSW in 1859. The Oakes family appeared to have moved to the Bathurst-Hill End area during the 1850s gold-rush.
It may be that the Oakes were known to Bessie King (née Kidd) rather than of any relevance to the Oughton; both the above items were recovered from her effects by Phillip King. The NSW Electoral Rolls shew Alice Rose Oakes [home duties] at (27) Victoria street, Epping in 1930 and 1933, joined there by Nancy Winifred Oakes [home duties] in 1936, 1937, 1943 and 1949.

There were two children born of the marriage of Thomas George (Dunbar Oughton) Kidd and Annie Agnes Newell:

• ELIZABETH ANNIE FRANCES KIDD ("Bessie") (born 1892, Arncliffe, Sydney; died 1978; married Claude William Breckenridge King in 1916; four children) and
• JEAN BERTHA BEATRICE KIDD ("Dae") (born 1893, died 1992; married Edward Percy Crockford in 1918; four children).

Thomas G Kidd was listed at Gale street, Hunter's Hill [no occupation given] in the 1895 Sands Directories: Sydney and New South Wales, Australia, 1858-1933, and as T Kidd at “Gomea”, Crescent st, Hunter's Hill in 1897, T Kidd at Crescent st, Hunter's Hill from 1898 to at least 1912.

NSW Electoral Rolls shew Agnes Annie Kidd [home duties], Edward Percy Crockford [bank manager] and Jean Bertha Beatrice Crockford [home duties] at 416 Bondi Road, Bondi North in 1930, Agnes at 2 Edwin St., Croydon though Edward and Jean listed at 416 Bondi Road in 1933, all three at 219 Victoria Rd., Gladesville, in 1936 and 1937, the same, with Joan Marian Crockford [student] and Roslyn Elizabeth Crockford [bank officer] in 1943, and Agnes, Edward [manager], Jean and Roslyn [clerk] all [℅] Commonwealth Bank, Parkes in 1949.

Thomas George Kidd, the younger, died on 3 May 1918 at Hunters Hill NSW. On his second wedding certificate his mother's middle name was entered as 'Marion', and his father's profession noted as 'clerk'; his death certificate stated his father's profession to be 'medical'. The Sydney Morning Herald of Saturday 4 May 1918 (p2) reported:

KIDD.– May 3, 1918. at his residence, Gomea, Crescent street, Hunter's Hill, Thomas George, dearly-lovcd husband of Agnes Annie Kidd, aged 65 years. Interment at Field of Mars Cemetery, this afternoon, leaving All Saints' Church, Hunter's Hill, at 2 o'clock.

Thomas' widowed second wife Agnes Annie Kidd née Newell, daughter ROBERT WILLIAM and ANNIE, died at Parkes in mid-western NSW on 12 March 1951, and was buried next to her husband in Sydney. The Sydney Morning Herald of Wednesday 14 March 1916 (p32) reported:

KIDD, Agnes Annie.– March 12, 1951, at Commonwealth Bank residence, Parkes, widow of the late T. G. Kidd and loved mother of Elizabeth and Jean.
KIDD.– The Funeral of the late Mrs. AGNES ANNIE KIDD will leave All Saints' Church, Hunter's Hill, This Wednesday, after Service commencing at 2.30 p.m., for Church of England Cemetery, Field of Mars.

1.4.1.1.1   Elizabeth Annie Frances Kidd (1892…1978) m. Claude William Breckenridge King (1873…1941)

Elizabeth Annie Frances Kidd (Bessie) was born in 1892 at ?Newtown, the elder child of THOMAS GEORGE DUNBAR OUGHTON KIDD by hs second wife, AGNES ANNIE NEWELL; Bessie's birth was registered at Rockdale. A nursing sister at Sydney Hospital, Bessie married Claude William Breckenridge King in 1916 near Hornsby NSW. The Sydney Morning Herald of Saturday 2 December 1916 (p12) noted: "KING-KIDD-October 11, 1916 at All Saints' Church, Hunters Hill, by the Rev. Edward Owen, B.A., Claude W. B., elder son of Mr. and Mrs. Thomas King, Lismore, to Elizabeth A., elder daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Kidd, Hunters Hill.”; the marriage was registered at Hornsby NSW.

Claude, born 1873 (?near Kiama NSW), was the first of eight children born to THOMAS KING and his wife ELIZABETH AMELIA CADDEN.

Claude, born 1873 (near Kiama NSW), was the first of eight children born to Thomas and Elizabeth. Claude's siblings were Florence E King (1874…1943), Elizabeth W King (1876…1946), Lurline King (1877…1950), Ethel Anna King (1879…1939), Thomas A King (1883…1954), Constance E King (1886…1956) and David King (…1893). Claude's parents had married in Kiama NSW. His father Thomas was the son of JOSEPH KING (1815…1874) and SARAH ANN McNEES (1827…1871). His mother Elizabeth was a daughter of HUGH P CADDEN and ELIZABETH FULLER, married in Melbourne in 1843, the family subsequently moving to Kiama. Elizabeth Fuller was one of seven children of ANN and WILLIAM FULLER; the latter had died aboard the North Briton in 1839 while the family were emigrating to Australia.

At the time of T G D O Kidd's death in 1918, Claude and Bessie King were living at Corndale (via Lismore) NSW. Their four children were:

• HELEN ELIZABETH KING (born 1918 at Cammeray NSW; married Alexander Keith Gill in 1949; three children),
• BRIAN THOMAS CLAUDE KING (born 1918; died 22 January 1974; married Catherine Alice Boys in 1943; three children),
• NIGEL JOHN KING (born 1921 at Lismore [per Army records] or Sylvania NSW; married Thelma Jill Whittle in 1953; three children) and
• PHILLIP ASHLEY KING (born 1926 at Lismore; married Robin Winsome Edwardes in 1957; three children).

The NSW Electoral Rolls shew Claude William Breckenridge King [farmer] and Elizabeth Annie Traves King [home duties] at 101 Ballina street, Lismore, in 1936 and Claude [merchant] and Elizabeth at 18 James street, Lismore, in 1937.

Claude died on 17 February 1941, 'late of Lismore', and his funeral was held the following day. An obituary and funeral notice were published in Lismore's Northern Star on 18 February 1941 and a probate notice the next day. Bessie, 'late of Mosman', died on 3 February 1978 in NSW; a death notice was published in the Sydney Morning Herald on 6 February 1978.

The 1949 NSW Electoral Roll shews Elizabeeth Annie Frances King [home duties], Helen Elizabeth King [home duties], Nigel John King [clerk] and Phillip Ashley King [bank clerk] at 29 Boundary road, Pennant Hills and at 39a Muston street, Mosman (Phillip noted as a 'clerk'). Brian was married and living at Rockdale.

Bessie, 'late of Mosman', died on 3 February 1978 in NSW; a death notice was published in the Sydney Morning Herald on 6 February 1978.

Michelle Patient eMailed [12 October 2003]:

Claude William KING … was born 25 Jun 1873, according to the Illawarra Pioneer Register.
I am descended from [Alexander, older brother of] Thomas KING's father Joseph. … I am not sure when the family reached the Lismore area - but know they were there by 1908 as I have an autograph in my grandmothers book by Claude's sister Ethel Anna. (They were second cousin's to my maternal grandmother Ada Irene DOUGLASS nee KING).
There are a number of us researching the KING lines - but we only know people descended from Alexander and his brother William, would be great to find interested descendants of Joseph. Do you are know if any of Claude and Bessie's descendants interested in Family history???

Drew Schmidt eMailed [29 July 2011]:

… I have been tracing the history of my house in Maryborough Queensland and have found it was built for Dr Harry Clarendon Whittle, the father of Thelma J Whittle. I've been looking to see if anyone has any stories or photos relating to the house.

Born 2 Sepember 1896 at Quirindi NSW, the son of Louis C and Hannah, Harry Clarendon Whittle was awarded his Masters of Surgrey at the University of Sydney in 1920. He enlisted in The Australian Army on 23 December 1940 in Brisbane, noting his residence as Maryborough and his next-of-kin as Thelma Whittle. A Major [QX6494 (Q185331)] in the 2nd AIF (Australian Imperial Force) and CMF (Citizen Military Force), he died of wounds in Egypt on 2 June 1941, attached to 9th Australian General Hospital. His marriage to Thelma Dowe had been registered at Tamworth in 1922.

1.4.1.1.2  ♦ Jean Bertha Beatrice Kidd (1893…1992) m. Edward Percy Crockford (1894…1970)

Bertha Jean Beatrice Kidd (Jean) was born at Arncliffe NSW in 1893, daughter of THOMAS GEORGE DUNBAR OUGHTON KIDD and his second wife AGNES ANNIE NEWELL. Jean married Edward Percy Crockford (Ted) at Hunters Hill NSW on the 25 March 1918. Edward was born at Petersham NSW in 1894, the son of WALTER WILLIAM CROCKFORD and MARY EMMA DIBSDALL.

Jean and Edward lived in Crescent Street, Hunters Hill in their early married life. They had four daughters; the second, an elder twin, died the day of birth.

Edward Percy Crockford died 12 August 1970; Jean Bertha Beatrice Crockford née Kidd died on 8 July 1992 at Willoughby NSW..

1.4.1.2  John Frederick Kidd (1855…1893+) m. Agnes M Adam (1859… 1885+)

The birth of John Frederick Kidd on 13 December 1855, Melbourne, Victoria, son of THOMAS GEORGE KIDD and his wife ELIZABETH MARGARET OPENSHAW, appears registered without Christian names on 31 December 1855 at Hobart, Tasmania, by grandfather Thos Openshaw of Sandy Bay, Hobart. His father was in the Victorian Police Force at least from 1 October 1852 until 31 August 1854, by November 1857 apparently a “gentleman” possibly near Launceston in northern Tasmania, by 1 April 1858 with the Tasmanian police service at George Town near Launceston, transferred to Oatlands in the Tasmanian midlands, and finally discharged on 31 December 1859.

It is likely that John and his siblings accompanied their mother from Hobart Town to Sydney aboard the 285 ton burthen ship Tasmania, arriving on 25 June 1860 – passengers included “Mrs Kidd & 4 Children” – possibly preceeded by thieir father: a “Mr Kidd” arrived in Sydney from 'Hobarton' in the Tasmania on 31 March 1860, travelling Steerage.. It is possible that they lived at 37 Mount-street, Pyrmont in 1863 and 1864.

In 1864 his father deserted the family: John (aged 9) and his brother Arthur Sydney (6) were received into the Randwick Asylum for Destitute Children on 28 April 1864, the day after their elder brother Thomas (10) and three days before younger brother Henry (4). Their other, youngest, sibling, Sophia (2), apparently remained with her mother. Three of the four Kidd boys were released as apprentices, though John departed 4 November 1867, “aged 13” [though seemingly not then 12], “Discharged to Mother with the consent of House of Committees” and nominally rejoining his sister.

Indexed as John F H Kidd, John's marriage to Agnes M Adam was registered in Sydney in 1881. Agnes' birth, to THOMAS and REBECCA, had been registered at Newcastle NSW in 1859.

John and Agnes were the parents of at least two children:

• LINDA M KIDD (birth registered in 1883 in Sydney, The Sydney Morning Herald of Saturday 17 February 1883 noted: “KIDD.– February 10, at the residence of Mrs Hewitt, 16, Union-street, Pyrmont, the wife of John Frederick Kidd, Esq., of a daughter. Newcastle papers please copy.”) and
  
• MINA V KIDD (birth registered in 1885 at Goulburn).

John Frederick Kidd was noted as aged 37 on his mother's 1893 death certificate – viz. born circa 1856 this is consistent with his being the male Kidd whose birth was registered by grandfather Thomas Openshaw in Hobart, otherwise not noted on the 1893 death certificate.

1.4.1.3  Sydney Arthur Kidd (1857…1893+)

Sydney Arthur Kidd was born on 10 November 1857 near Launceston, Tasmania, son of THOMAS GEORGE KIDD and his wife ELIZABETH MARGARET OPENSHAW, his father noted as a “gentleman”. By 1 April 1858 his father Thomas was with the Tasmanian police service at George Town near Launceston. Thomas transferred to Oatlands in the Tasmanian midlands in early 1859 and was finally discharged from the service on 31 December 1859.

It is likely that John and his siblings accompanied their mother from Hobart Town to Sydney aboard the 285 ton burthen ship Tasmania, arriving on 25 June 1860 – passengers included “Mrs Kidd & 4 Children” – possibly preceeded by thieir father: a “Mr Kidd” arrived in Sydney from 'Hobarton' in the Tasmania on 31 March 1860, travelling Steerage. It is possible that they lived at 37 Mount-street, Pyrmont in 1863 and 1864.

In 1864 his father deserted the family: Arthur Sydney (aged 6) and his brother John (9) were received into the Randwick Asylum for Destitute Children on 28 April 1864, the day after their elder brother Thomas (10) and three days before younger brother Henry (4). Their other, youngest, sibling, Sophia (2), apparently remained with her mother. Three of the four Kidd boys were released as apprentices: Arthur Sydney Kidd departed 14 July 1871, aged 13, “Apprenticed to the Society and re-apprenticed 14 June /73 to Mr Henry Page of Dubbo”. John departed 4 November 1867, “aged 13” [though seemingly not then 12], “Discharged to Mother with the consent of House of Committees” and nominally rejoining his sister.

Little more is known of Arthur (as he seems to have been called): he is noted as aged 35 on his mother's 1893 death certificate – viz. born circa 1858.

1.4.1.4  Henry Bernard Kidd (1859…1909) m. Margaret Annen (1952…1932)

*Robert Bulford [per emails, 2013] provided specific detail regarding his great-grandparents Henry Bernard/Burnett Kidd and Margaret Allen/Ammean/Annen.
The birth of Henry Bernard Kidd on 23 October 1859, son of THOMAS GEORGE KIDD and his wife ELIZABETH MARGARET OPENSHAW, was registered at by his mother Oatlands, Tasmania, on 2 December 1859 without Christian names, shortly before his father was finally discharged from the Tasmanian police force on 31 December 1859.

It is likely that John (8m) and his three older brothers accompanied their mother from Hobart Town to Sydney aboard the 285 ton burthen ship Tasmania, arriving on 25 June 1860 – passengers included “Mrs Kidd & 4 Children” – possibly preceeded by thieir father: a “Mr Kidd” arrived in Sydney from 'Hobarton' in the Tasmania on 31 March 1860, travelling Steerage. It is possible that they lived at 37 Mount-street, Pyrmont in 1863 and 1864.

In 1864 his father deserted the family: Henry (4) was admitted into the Randwick Asylum for Destitute Children on 1 May1864, a few days after his brothers Thomas (10), John (aged 9) and Arthur Sydney (6). Their other, youngest, sibling, Sophia (2), apparently remained with her mother. Henry left the Asylum on 18 August 1874, aged 13, “Apprenticed to Rev. F. G. Marshall of Mulgo.”

Henry was noted as aged 32 on his mother's 1893 death certificate. Henry Kidd married Maggie Ammean [Annen*] on 27 September 1884 [as registered in Sydney*]. Margaret's birth / baptism on 22 September 1852 is apparently in the NSW BDM indexes as Margaret Allen* – this may be the Margaret Allen baptised in 1852 to JOHN and ANN [JOHN ANNEN (1814…1899) and ANN TWEEDIE (1816…1912)].

Henry and his wife Margaret were the parents of five children:

• BERNARD KIDD (birth registered at Glebe in 1885; death registered at Glebe in 1885),
  
• ARTHUR E KIDD (birth registered at Glebe in 1887; death registered at Newtown in 1887),
  
• ELIZABETH LILLIAN KIDD (“Lilly” or “Lillian”, birth registered at Newtown in 1888: alive in 1932; death registered at Helensburgh in 1964; marriage to William Charles Wiseman registered at Newtown in 1914),
  
• SOPHIA ETHEL KIDD (“Ethel”, birth registered at Newtown in 1891: alive in 1932; death as Sophie Ethel Todd registered in NSW in 1975 (father indexed as Henry Bernard [Kidd]); marriage to Arthur Waterton Todd registered at Newtown in 1913) and
  
• HAROLD CHARLES KIDD (birth registered at Newtown in 1893; death on 13 July 1971, 'late of Riverwood', registered at Kogarah; marriage to Lillian Theresa Shottin registered at Marrickville in 1916, they divorced in 1938; marriage to Gladys Lavinia Bickley registered at Kogarah in 1947).

Robert Bulford [eMail, 7 June 2013] commented:

… there was some sort of falling out between Harold and Ethel, when and for what reasons we do not know. All I know is that Nan [Ethel] had not spoken to her brother in decades, and he was said to be “a bad lot”. I remember visiting Nan and Pop, where they lived in Orange, again in the early 1970s, somehow having learned that Harold had just died, shortly before I had arrived from Sydney. I said to Nan that I was sorry, but Pop said that is okay, Nan hadn’t spoken to her brother in years. However, I could see that Nan was at least a little affected by the new.

Very few photos of Margaret Kidd appear to have survived. Two of her as a very old lady, not very clear, and one of her as a young woman. We have one only photo of Henry B Kidd, as a youngish man (a studio shot).
The death of Henry Burnett Kidd, aged 48, 'late of Bexley', son of THOMAS G and ELIZABETH M, on 4 February 1909, was registered at Hurstville: he was buried in Section M Grave 31, CoE section, Woronora Cemetery (“a/c Elizabeth A Kidd, Washington Street, Bexley”). On his death certificate Henry Burnett Kidd was described as a warehouseman and his was noted as being born in Sydney NSW to “Thomas George Kidd, Accountant, and Elizabeth Marian Openshaw”; the informant was “A C Kidd, brother, Hunters Hill”*. Notices were published in The Sydney Morning Herald on Friday 5 February 1909 (p6 and p12):

KIDD.—February 4, 1909, at his late residence, Rockley, Washington-street, Bexley, Henry Bernard Kidd, aged 48 years. Funeral to take place at Sutherland Cemetery by train leaving Rockdale station at 2.30 p.m. this afternoon.
KIDD.—The Friends of Mr. and Mrs. WEST and FAMILY are kindly invited to attend the Funeral of their late beloved BROTHER-IN-LAW and their UNCLE, Henry Bernard Kidd, to move from his late residence, Rockley, Washington-street, Bexley, THIS AFTERNOON, at ¼ to 2 o'clock, for Sutherland Cemetery, by 2.10 p.m. train from Sydney, via Rockdale. C. KINSELA. Undertaker, Rockdale, and 703 Geo.-st.

Another notice appeared in The Sydney Morning Herald on Saturday 20 February 1909 (p12)

RETURN THANKS.
The WIFE and FAMILY of the late Mr. HENRY BURNET KIDD, Washington-street, Bexley, desire to express their heartfelt THANKS to Messrs. Sargood Bros. and employees, also their many kind friends for letters, cards, and floral tributes in their recent sad bereavement.

Regular memorial notices appeared in The Sydney Morning Herald for a few years:

◌ The Sydney Morning Herald of Saturday 3 February 1912 (p16)
KIDD.—In loving memory of my dear husband and our dear father, Henry Burnett Kidd, who departed this life February 4, 1909, at Bexley. Gone, but not forgotten.
◌ The Sydney Morning Herald of Tuesday 4 February 1913 (p8):
KIDD.—In loving memory of my dear husband, Henry Burnett Kidd who departed this life February 4, 1909, at Bexley.
At rest with Jesus.
Inserted by his loving wife,
KIDD.—In loving memory of our dear father, Henry Burnett Kidd, who departed this life February 4, 1909.
Gone, but memory still is dear.
Inserted by his loving children, Lily, Ethel, and Harold.
◌ The Sydney Morning Herald of Saturday 7 February 1914 (p20):
KIDD.—In fond and loving memory of my dear husband and our father, Henry Bernard Kidd, who departed this life February 4th, 1909. Inserted by his loving wife and children Lilly, Ethel and Harold.
We miss our dear loved one,
While he lies at peace and rest,
But we bear our grief and sorrow,
For Jesus knoweth best.

Robert Bulford [per eMail, 6 June 2013] commented:

To my knowledge my grandmother, Ethel nee Kidd, never knew about the destitute background of her father; she certainly, to my knowledge and that of my cousin Pip, at least, never spoke of it. She was too proud, … We believe neither of our parents knew of it. Ethel was, of course, only 17 when her father died.

Rob Bulford [eMail, 7 June 2013] added:

Henry B Kidd was definitely Henry Burnett Kidd on his death certificate. He is referred to as a warehouseman. My grandmother, Ethel, told me that he was a “storeman in soft type goods”. I wrote down what she told me at the time (in the early 1970s). And at about that time Nan also referred to her father as Henry Burnett Kidd. You can, of course, see the confusion about his name in the in memoriam notices, where most are in H Burnett mode but one in H Bernard mode. Nan’s death cert refers to him as Henry Bernard Kidd, but then it also refers to Margaret, her mother, as being nee Annah [sic]. Margaret’s death certificate refers to Bernard. But, Ethel’s birth certificate refers to him as Henry Burnett Kidd, Packer, aged 31, born in Tasmania. But, then, mother is referred to as nee Annan [sic] or it might even be Annam – the running writing is not clear and the copy we have is a photo copy from the handwritten version, with the end of Margaret’s name shadowing off into the spine of the bound book in which the register is held.
I do know who the Wests are. Henry’s widow, Margaret (nee Annen) had a sister, Mary Ann (b. c. 1855). She married Joshua James West in 1875, and they had 9 children.

NSW Electoral Rolls shew Margaret Kidd [home duties], Arthur Waterton Todd [accountant] and Ethel Sophie Todd [home duties] at 19 Highworth avenue, Kingsgrove, in 1930.

The death of Margaret Kidd, daughter of JOHN and ANN, on 20 August 1932, was registered at Rockdale. The Sydney Morning Herald noted on Monday 22 August 1932 (p8):

KIDD.—August 20, 1932, at Bexley, Margaret, relict of the late Henry Bernard Kidd and beloved mother of Lillian, Ethel and Harold.

The Sydney Morning Herald Monday 22 August 1932 (p7):

KIDD.—The Relatives and Friends of Mr. and Mrs. H. C. KIDD and FAMILY are invited to attend the Funeral of their beloved MOTHER and GRANDMOTHER Margaret Kidd to leave the residence of her daughter Mrs. A. W. Todd 19 Highworth avenue Bexley, THIS MORNING at 9.45 for Church of England Cemetery, Woronora.
MOTOR FUNERALS LIMITED. Tele., M6277 30-City road, city.
KIDD.—The Relatives and Friends of Mr. and Mrs. A. W. TODD and FAMILY are invited to attend the Funeral of their beloved MOTHER and GRANDMOTHER, Margaret Kidd; to leave their residence, 19 Highworth-avenue Bexley, THIS MORNING at 9.45, for Church of England Cemetery, Woronora. MOTOR FUNERALS LIMITED.

1.4.1.4.1  Elizabeth Lillian Kidd (1888…1964) m. William Charles Wiseman (1890… 1941)

The birth of Elizabeth Lillian Kidd [“Lily” and “Lillian”, also referred to as Lillian Elizabeth Kidd], daughter of HENRY BARNARD/BERNARD/BURNETT KIDD and his wife MARGARET —, and granddaughter of THOMAS GEORGE KIDD and his wife ELIZABETH MARGARET OPENSHAW, was registered at Newtown in 1888. The marriage of Elizabeth Lillian Kidd and William Charles Wiseman was registered at Newtown in 1914, The Sydney Morning Herald on Saturday 28 February 1914 (p20) noting:

“WISEMAN-KIDD.—January 17, 1914, at St. Stephen's Church, Newtown, by the Rev. E. D. Fethers, William C. Wiseman, of Carlton, to Lillian, eldest daughter of the late Henry Kidd, of Bexley.”.

The birth of William C Wiseman to WILLIAM and ANN had been registered at Glebe in 1890.

William and Lilly adopted a boy:

• OWEN WISEMAN ().

NSW Electoral Rolls shew William Charles Wiseman [shop assistant] and Elizabeth Lillian Wiseman [home duties] at 12 Ashton street, Kogarah in 1930, 1933, 1936 and 1937. Elizabeth alone was at 12 Ashton street, Kogarah in 1943; she was at Coral road, Cronulla in 1949 and at 15 Caringbah Road, Cronulla in 1958.

The death of William Charles Wiseman, son of WILLIAM and ANNIE PURGAVIE [WISEMAN], was registered at Rockdale in 1941: he was buried in Woronora Cemetery's Presbyterian Section LL Grave 30 [next to William Wiseman who died 9 August 1928 and Ann P Wiseman who died 15 April 1939].

Robert Bulford [eMail, 7 June 2013] recalled:

… Aunty Lilly suffered from dementia/alzheimers. She was in a nursing home from at least the mid to late 1950s. I remember traipsing from Manly by public transport all the way out to Cronulla with my Nan (her sister, Ethel) in about 1957 or 1958. I was not allowed in the home, being only 7 or 8 at the time, and sent to play in the sand on Cronulla Beach, which I thought a bit unfair! Aunty Lilly was later moved to a nursing home at or near Waterfall, down towards the Royal National Park – hence no doubt the reference to Helensburgh on the death certificate. …

The death on 30 January 1964 of Elizabeth Lillian Wiseman a.k.a. Elizabeth Lillian Wiseman, age 75, daughter of HENRY BURNETT [KIDD] and MARGARET, was registered at Helensburgh and noted in The Sydney Morning Herald on 1 February 1964; her ashes were scattered at Woronora.

1.4.1.4.2  Sophia Ethel Kidd (1891…1975) m. Arthur Waterton Todd (1893…1978)

The birth of Sophia Ethel Kidd [“Ethel”, also referred to as Ethel Sophie Kidd], daughter of HENRY BARNARD/BERNARD/BURNETT KIDD and his wife MARGARET ANNEN, and granddaughter of THOMAS GEORGE KIDD and his wife ELIZABETH MARGARET OPENSHAW, was registered at Newtown in 1891. Sophie Ethel Kidd married Arthur Waterton Todd at Newtown on 30 August 1913. The birth of Arthur Waterton Todd to JAMES TODD and Lancashire-born HARRIETT HARRISON on 28 July 1893 had been registered at Waterloo NSW [James and Harriett had married on 22 March 1883 at Waterloo, NSW].

Arthur and Sophie appear to have been the parents of (at least):

• DOROTHY LILLIAN WATERTON TODD(birth on 10 April 1914 registered at St Peters; died 8 August 1990 in Millicent, South Australia; marriage to Richard McLoughlin (1904…1957) on 19 July 1941 registered at Rockdale, three issue),
  
• MAVIS HARRIETT WATERTON TODD (birth on 4 May 1915 registered at Rockdale; died 11 July 1997 in Sydney NSW; marriage to Alexander John McKinney on 3 October 1942 registered in Sydney, two issue),
  
• JOYCE WATERTON TODD (birth on 28 March 1918 registered at Rockdale; died 5 August 1995 in Sydney NSW; marriage to Jack Barrow (1900…1979) on 3 March 1944 registered in Sydney, three issue) and
  
• BERYL WATERTON TODD (born 9 November 1922 at Bexley, NSW; died 21 February 2008, aged 85; married Alexander Edward Henry Bulford [“Alec”] in 1946, four issue).

NSW Electoral Rolls shew Margaret Kidd [home duties], Arthur Waterton Todd [accountant] and Ethel Sophie Todd [home duties] at 19 Highworth avenue, Kingsgrove, in 1930, with Arthur and Ethel still there in 1933. Arthur Waterton Todd [chartered accountant], Ethel Sophie Todd [home duties] and Dorothy Lillian Waterton Todd [typiste] are listed at 58 Summer street, Orange, in 1936, where they are joined by Mavis Harriett Waterton Todd [home duties] in 1937. Arthur, Ethel and Joyce Waterton Todd [nurse] are noted at 80 Byng street, Orange, in 1943. Arthur and Ethel are enrolled at 23 Sale street, Orange in 1949, 1954, 1958 and 1963. Arthur and Sophie Ethel Todd were listed at 57 Kite street, Orange, in 1968 [sic.].

The death of Sophie Ethel Todd, daughter of HENRY BERNARD [KIDD] and MARGARET, was registered in NSW in 1975.

Arthur Waterton Todd died on 16 July 1978 at Millicent in South Australia.

1.4.1.4.2.1  Joyce Waterton Todd (1918…1995) m. Jack Barrow (…1979)

Joyce Waterton Todd, daughter of ARTHUR WATERTON TODD and his wife SOPHIE ETHEL KIDD [Sophia Ethel Kidd, “Ethel”], was born on 26 March 1918 at Carlton NSW [her birth registered at Rockdale]. On 19 November 1942 at Baulkham Hills NSW, Joyce enlisted in the Australian Army, noting her 'locality' as Orange, NSW, and her next-of-kin as Arthur Todd: she was discharged as a Lieutenant from the Australian Army Nursing Service on 4 September 1946. [A Jack Barrow, born in Manchester, England, on 10 December 1906, next-of-kin Charles Barrow, had enlisted in the Australian Army at Paddington NSW on 19 September 1941].

Joyce's marriage to Jack Barrow on 3 March 1944 was registered in Sydney. They had three sons.

NSW Electoral Rolls shew Jack Barrow [carpenter] and Joyce Waterton Barrow [home duties] at 29 Casey street, Orange, in 1949, Jack [builder] and Joyce at Keena street, Orange, in 1954 and 1958 and at 61 Keena street, Orange, in 1963 and 1968 [a William John Barrow [process worker] appears listed at 161 Peisley street, Orange, in 1968]. Joyce [no occupation] was listed at 8 Asca Drive, Green Point, in 1980.

The death of Jack Barrow on 8 May 1979, 'late of Orange', son of CHARLES ROBERT and SARAH LOUISE, was noted in the Sydney Morning Herald the next day. The death of Joyce Waterton Barrow on 5 August 1995, 'late of Narrabeen, formerly of Green Point, NSW' was noted in the Sydney Morning Herald on 8 August 1995.

1.4.1.4.2.2  Beryl Waterton Todd (1922…2008) m. Alexander Edward Henry Bulford (c1921… 2007)

Beryl Waterton Todd, daughter of ARTHUR WATERTON TODD and his wife SOPHIE ETHEL KIDD [Sophia Ethel Kidd, “Ethel”], was born on 9 November 1922 at Bexley, NSW. On 2 March 1943 at Concord NSW, Beryl enlisted in the Australian Army, noting her 'locality' as Orange, NSW, and her next-of-kin as Arthur Todd: she was discharded as a Private from the 'AAMWS (AIF)' [Australian Army Medical Women's Service] on 5 March 1946.

Beryl mmarried Alexander Edward Henry Bulford in Penang in 1946, The Sydney Morning Herald of Wednesday 3 April 1946 (p22) announced: “BULFORD-TODD.– The Engagement is announced of Beryl, youngest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. A. W. Todd, Orange, to Alec Bulford, Singapore, eldest son of Mr. and Mrs. E. H. Bulford, Penang.” Beryl married Alexander Edward Henry Bulford [“Alec”] in 1946, The Sydney Morning Herald of Thursday 5 September 1946 (p16) reporting: “MARRIAGES. BULFORD-TODD.– August 17, 1946, at Garrison Church, Penang, by Rev. E. M. Quigley, Beryl Waterton, youngest daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Arthur Waterton Todd, of Orange, to Alec, eldest son of Mr. and Mrs. E. H. Bulford, of Penang, Malaya.”

Beryl and Alec had four issue.

NSW Electoral Rolls shew Alec Edward Henry Bulford [company director] and Beryl Waterton Barrow [home duties] at 32 Willis avenue, St Ives, in 1968, with Alec [director], Beryl, Bruce Anthony Bulford [student] and Robert Alexander Bulford [solicitor] listed at that address in 1980.

The death of Alec Bulford on 24 May 2007, aged 86, 'late of Tea Gardens, formerly of Wentworth Falls', was noted in the Sydney Morning Herald on 30 May 2007. The death of Beryl Bulford on 21 February 2008, aged 85, was noted in the Sydney Morning Herald on 23 February 2008.

1.4.1.4.3  Harold Charles Kidd (1893…1971) m1. Lillias Theresa Shottin (1895… 1978);
m2. Gladys Lavinia Bickley née Hansell (c1914… 1993)

The birth of Harold Charles Kidd, son of HENRY BARNARD/BERNARD/BURNETT KIDD and his wife MARGARET ANNEN, and grandson of THOMAS GEORGE KIDD and his wife ELIZABETH MARGARET OPENSHAW, in July 1893, was registered at Newtown. The marriage of Harold Charles Kidd to Lillias Theresa Shottin on 2 September 1916 was registered at Marrickville. The birth of Lillis Theresa Shottin had been registered to JACOB J and LILLIAN A at Moruya in 1895.

Harold and Lillias appear to have been the parents of two children:

• JEAN LILLIAS MARGARET KIDD (born circa 1923; died 28 July 2010 at Burradoo, NSW; marriage to Charles William Dolan on 12 April 1940 registered at Rockdale, apparently with six issue [William Charles Dolan, born 31 March 1919 at Randwick, son of WILLIAM LAURENCE DOLAN and ELIZABETH JANE PRESTON, died at Katoomba in July 2000]) and
  
• JOAN NEVA MILLIAS KIDD(born circa 1928; alive in July 1971; marriage to George Henry Francis Butler on 11 April 1947 registered at Parramatta; divorced about 1962; issue Danny George Harold Butler (deceased 2013)).

NSW Electoral Rolls shew Harold Charles Kidd [carpenter] and Lillias Theresa Kidd [home duties] at 194 Queen Victoria street, Bexley in 1930. Harold and Lillias were enrolled at 33 Gladstone street, Bexley and at 46 Chamberlain road, Kingsgrove in 1933. Harold and Lillias remained at 46 Chamberlain road in 1936 but were listed at Denison street Junee in 1937.

Harold and Lillias' marriage floundered in 1937 and ended in 1938. Lillias later married Victor Augustus Moyon and folliwing his death was offered marriage by a conman (who took her money and home) after which she had two more marriages. Harold also re-married, with three known issue.

NSW Electoral Rolls shew Lillias Theresa Moylan [home duties] at 27 Richards avenue, Surry Hills in 1943; Victor Augustus Moyon [no occupation] and Lillias Theresa Moyon [home duties] were at 35 Eloora road, Long Jetty [Gosford] in 1949; Lillias was still there in 1954. The marriage of Lillian Theresa Kidd and Victor Augustus Mayor on 9 September 1947 was registered in Sydney. NSW Electoral Rolls had listed Victor Augustus Moyou [railway employee] and Elizabeth Moyou [home duties] at High street, Penrith, in 1930, both as Moyon at Parker street, Penrith, in 1936 and 1937, and Victor Augustus Moyon [railway employee] only as at 'c.o. Kidd, Denison street, Junee', also in 1937. Victor had aparently thrice stood for election to Penrith Municipal Council circa 1927-28. The death of Victor Augustus Moyon on 22 April 1952, aged 66, 'late of Long Jetty', noted in the on-line BDM indexes as a son of Victor and Sophie, registered at Wyong, was noted in The Sydney Morning Herald on 23 April 1952:

MOYON Victor Augustus.-—April 22, 1952, at his residence, 35 Eloora Road, Long Jetty, dearly loved husband of Lillias Theresa, aged 66 years. At rest.

The on-line BDM indexes have Victor A Moyon, son of Eugene and Eliza, born 22 December 1885 [the birth registered in 1886].

 

Victor Augustus Moyon served in Australian Forces during World War 1 – Service Number 2291, enlisting in Sydney and noting his place of birth as Sydney NSW and 'next-of-kin' as “(Wife) MOYON Elizabeth”. Robert Bulford (per eMails, 13feb2015) noted that Victor Augustus Moyon had been married to Elizabeth Widgett before Lillias, on 7 September 1909, the event registered at Canterbury NSW. Victor and Elizabeth lost a child in infancy on 29 January 1923, Victor E Moyon (not named in item in the Southern Morning Herald (Goulburn) of Friday 2 February 1923 (p3). They also tragically lost a son, Alfred Leonard Moyon, who drowned in Peach Tree Creek, near Penrith, on 12 April 1930. There was a coronial inquest, reported in the Nepean Times on 19 April 1930 (p1) and other papers such as the Daily Advertiser (Wagga Wagga) on 14 April 1930 (p1). The death of an Elizabeth Moyon, daughter of William Thomas and Honora Ann, on 6 July 1947, was registered at Marrickville. Elizabeth had borne a son prior to marrying Victor: Robert Bulford (eMails, 13feb2015) found an item in the Tamworth Daily Observer of Saturday 9 September 1916 (p4) noting that “Trooper Alf Pearce, who is 21 years of age, and left these shores in November, 1915, was missing in France on July 19. He is a son of Mrs V. A. Moyon, of Kootingal, but had resided with Mr. T. Gorman, Walcha, since he was 8 years of age”. The birth of Alfred J Widgett on 21 December 1895 had been registered at Walcha in 1896, the first of four indexed to Betsy/Bessy/Betsey Widgett without the father noted [the birth of Elizabeth B Widgett, to William and 'Hannah', had been registered at Armidale in 1876]. Alfred James Pearce survived World War I, Attestation Papers for World War II sworn at Tamworth on 19 July 1940 shewing labourer Alfred James Pearce, age 45, born Walcha NSW on 1 January 1895, married to Sylvia Alice Pearce and residing with her at 28 Griffin Lane, Tamworth, CoE, with four years previous military service with 53rd Battalion overseas. Alfred was discharges a Sergeant from 32 Australian Infantry Training Battalion on 17 October 1945. Electoral Rolls shew Alfred [labourer] and Sylvia [home duties] at 6 Macquarie street, Tamworth, in 1963. The death of an Alfred James Pearce, son of Frederick and Elizabeth, was registered in NSW in 1975. Sylvia Alice Pearce, age 73, died at Tamworth, her death registered in 1976.

Robert Bulford (eMails, 13feb2015) noted that “After Victor Augustus Moyon died, and before she married Herbert Charles Hockley, [Lillias met] a man, Norman Wilson, labourer of no fixed address, who promised to marry her and got her to sell her house at Long Jetty, and give her the proceeds. She was said to be left with nothing – no wonder she soon found another husband. Wilson, a serial fraudster, got 5 years with hard labour. See The Sydney Morning Herald of Tuesday 25 August 1953 at p. 5.” The Sydney Morning Herald's summary read:

FIVE YEARS' GAOL
A man who defrauded a widow of £2,000 was sentenced to five years' gaol at the Quarter Sessions yesterday.
Judge Nield said the man had committed a callous and heaitless fraud on an unsuspecting woman.
A jury had found Norman Wilson, 50, labourer of no fixed address, guilty of having fraudulently omitted to account to Mrs. Lillias Teresa Moyon for the sum of £2,000.
The Crown said that Mrs. Moyon, of Phillip Street, Parramatta, met Wilson in July, 1952, shortly after the death of her husband.
Mrs. Moyon then owned a house at Long Jetty and £900 in money.
Wilson, the Crown alleged, later offered to marry her. He suggested that she should sell her house and go with him to Adelaide where they could start life afresh.
Mrs. Moyon sold the house for £1,100 and handed over the proceeds, plus her £900, to Wilson. The two of them then went to Adelaide.
NO WEDDING
Wilson did not marry Mrs. Moyon. Nor did he pay any of the money back.
Mr. A. Cameron Smith (for Wilson) said that Wilson hoped to pay back £800 to Mrs. Moyon.
Judge Nield said that but for the fact that Wilson's last conviction for dishonesty was II years ago, he would have declared Wilson to be a habitual criminal.
Sentencing Wilson to five years hard labour, his Honor said that if Wilson made restitution of the £800, he would consider a reduction of the sentence.
But Wilson would have to serve at least 12 months before being released, his Honor said.

The marriage of Lillian Therese Moyon to Herbert Charles Hockley on 26 January 1955 was registered in Sydney. NSW Electoral Rolls shew Lillias Theresa Hockley [home duties] and Herbert Charles Hockley [paint mixer] at 20 Ross Street, Parramatta North, in 1958. The death of Herbert Charles Hockley, son of Thomas Oliver and Susan, on 24 May 1961 was registered at Parramatta. The marriage of Lillias Theresa Hockley to Edward Michael Murray on 20 September 1961 was registered in Parramatta. NSW Electoral Rolls shew Edward Michael Murray [no occupation] and Lillias Theresa Hockley [home duties] at 26 Ross street, Parramatta, in 1963.

The death of Lillias Murray, 'late of Glebe', on 11 February 1978, was noted in the Sydney Morning Herald two days later:

MURRAY, Lillias.— February 11, 1978, at hospital, of Cowper Street, Glebe, loving wife of Colwyn. For funeral details, watch these columns.

Harold Charles Kidd's marriage to Gladys Lavinia Bickley née Hansell was registered at Kogarah in 1947. The on-line NSW BMD indexes list the Paddington registration of the birth of a Gladys A Hansell, daughter of JOSEPH J and ETHEL M, born 15 March 1914. Harold's Gladys had been previously married, on 11 November 1931, to Charles Willian Gordon Bickley, as registered at Hurstville. NSW Electoral Rolls shew Charles William Jordan Bickley [labourer] and Gladys Lavinia Bickley [home dutied] at 129 Lansdowne street, Hurstville, in 1936, and at 53 Bassett street, Hurstville, in 1937. After several apperances before the Bench, Charles William Jordan Bickley was, in 1938, described as an "habitual criminal".

Gladys and Charles divorced in 1947, The Sydney Morning Herald of Saturday 25 January 1947 (p8) noting:

Glady's Lavinia Bickley (formerly Hansell) v Charles William Gordon Bickley. Marriage,
November, 1931. Issue, desertion. Messrs Boyce and Boyce for petitioner.

Charles Bickley also re-married, leading to divorce proceedings reported in Adelaide's News of Wednesday 24 January 1951 (p6) and The Advertiser Thursday 25 January 1951 (p7):

Elizabeth Dorothy Bickley, of John street, Hindmarsh, against Charles William Jordan Bickley, boot repairer, of Port road, Bowden, for adultery with Norma Elaine Rielly, of Green street, Brompton. Mr. R. D. Elliott for Mrs. Bickley.

 

 

The death of Charles William Jordan Bickley, son of JOHN WILLIAM and INO VESTA, was registered at Newtown NSW in 1960.

Harold and Gladys appear to have been the parents of (at least) three children.

Harold Charles Kidd [carpenter] and Gladys Lavin(i)a Kidd [home duties] are listed at 28 Brantwood street, Sans Souci in 1943. Harold and Gladys were at at 28 Helen street, Westmead and at 54 Moree street, Westmead in 1949, and at 17 Shenstone road, Peakhurst in 1954. The Rolls shew them at at 17 Shenstone road, Riverwood in 1963, where they are joined by Daryl Burnett Kidd [salesman] in 1968; Harold [carpenter] and Gladys were still listed there in 1980.

Harold Charles Kidd, 'late of Riverwood', son of HENRY BURNETT [KIDD] and MARGARET [ANNEN], died on 13 July 1971 and his remains were interred in the Anglican section, Woronora Cemetery; his death was registered at Kogarah and noted in the Sydney Morning Herald on 14 July 1971.

Gladys Lavenia Kidd, age 79, 'late of Peakhurst', died on 25 November 1993 and her remains were interred on 29 November 1993 in the Anglican section [AJ, 820], Woronora Cemetery. Gladys' passing was noted in the Sydney Morning Herald on 27 November 1993.

NSW Electoral Rolls shew Daryl Burnett Kidd [salesman] and Helen Elizabeth Kidd [home duties] at 24 Paine avenue, Moorebank, in 1980. NSW BDM indexes to 1984 shew no Kidd deaths fathered by Harold.

1.4.1.5   Sophia Mary [or May] Kidd (1862…1954) m. Charles Henry Barsby (1857… 1935)

Robert Bulford [per emails, 2013] provided additional detail regarding Sophia May Kidd
Sophia Mary Kidd was born 16 February 1862, Pyrmont, Sydney [noted as Sophia May, aged 30 on mother's 1893 death certificate] in Sydney to ELIZABETH MARGARET OPENSHAW and her husband THOMAS GEORGE KIDD [his occupation noted as "Police", said to have been born in Kent], four living male siblings. Sophia married Charles Henry Barsby in Sydney, 1882, The Sydney Morning Herald of Saturday 9 December 1882 (p1) noting:

BARSBY—KIDD.—November 7, at St. Philip's Church, by Rev. J.D. Langley, Charles Henry, eldest son of J.H. Barsby, Master mariner, of Melbourne, to Sophia, only daughter of Thomas Kidd, Esq., and granddaughter of Dr. John Kidd, R.N., F.R.S.C.S., Dublin. Home papers please copy.

Charles Henry Barsby was born on 7 October 1857 in Melbourne, Victoria, son of JOHN HENRY BARSBY (1820…1893) by his second wife MARY ANN RUTLAND (1820…1874) who had married in Hobart Town, Tasmania, on 8 April 1856. Both John and Mary were London-born; John died in Temora NSW and Mary in Melbourne [source: ancestry.com]. There were two children born of the marriage of Sophia and Charles:

• PERCY RUTLAND BARSBY (born The Glebe, 1883; died Singleton NSW in 1946; married Lilian May Durrans in London in 1909, with two issue; divorced in 1915; marriage to Julia Miranda Minns registered at Newtown in 1917, with three issue) and
  
• MYRA ALICE BARSBY (born St Peters NSW, 1886; death on 24 July 1947 as Myra Alice Bonamy, daughter of CHARLES HENRY and SOPHIA MARY, registered at Woollarah in 1947; marriage to Albert V Bonamy registered at Manly in 1919 [death of Albert Victor Bonamy, son of JAMES HENRY and MARIAN ELIZABETH, registered at Penrith in 1968]; The Sydney Morning Herald of Saturday 4 August 1923 (p12) noted: “BONAMY (née Myra Barsby).— June 22, at Lautoka, Fiji, the wife of Albert V. Bonamy— a son (Clifford Rutland)” [the marriage of Clifford Rutland Barsby and Carmel Valerie Gibbett was registered at Manly NSW in 1946; Carmel died 14 September 1987 , her ashes interred at Woronora Cemetery, Sutherland, along with those of Myra and of Bruce David Bonamy who died 7 January 1975]).

The Sydney Morning Herald on Tuesday 13 October 1914 (p4) reported:

FIRE AT HAT FACTORY. About 12.30 p.m. yesterday a fire broke out at the straw hat factroy of Messrs. C. H. Barsby and Sons, at the corner of Shepherd and Myrtle streets, Darlington. The flames were confined to the second floor, but the stock on the ground floor was badly damaged. The loss by fire and water is estimated at £3000. The building, machinery, etc., are insured with the Commercial Union Assurance Company, Ltd.

The Maitland Weekly Mercury of Saturday 17 October 1914 (p10) advised:

The top floor of Messrs. C. H. Barsby and Sons' two-storey hat factory at the corner of Shephard and Myrtle streets, Sydney, was burnt out on Monday afternoon. The fire lasted nearly an hour, ruined the machinery, and was responsible for the contents of the ground floor being practically destroyed by water. Altogether damage estimated at about £3000 was done. The fire, the cause of which is a mystery, started while the employees, numbering between 25 and 30, were at lunch. There was nobody on the floor at the time.

Brisbane's Queensland Figaro of Saturday 21 November 1914 (p6) advertised:

BIG FIRE IN SYDNEY. Big purchase in Brisbane.— The well known wholesale millinery firm of C. H. Barsby and Son, of London and Paris, have had a big fire in their Sydney wholesale branch. Owing to this fire all the Queensland samples of most up-to-date trimmed millinery have been purchased by T. J. Higgins and Co. at an enormous reduction for spot cash. This purchase has been marked off and will be sold at half price. The designs are exquisite and the only damaged thing is the price. Note the address : T. J. Higgins and Co., opp. Gordon and Gotch.

NSW Electoral Rolls shew Charles Henry Barsby [merchant] and Sophia Mary Barsby [home duties] at 9 Serpentine parade, Vaucluse, in 1930, Charles [retailer] and Sophia at 80 Bream street, Coogee, in 1933 and Sophia only at 183 Avoca street, Randwick East, in 1936 and 1937. Sophia was at 32 William street, Singleton, in 1943; in 1943 Percy Rutland Barsby [draper] and Jean Miranda Barsby [home duties] were at William street, Singleton.

The death on 2 August 1935 of Charles Henry Barsby, son of JOHN H and MARY A BARSBY, was registered at Randwick NSW in 1935. The Sydney Morning Herald of Saturday 3 August 1935 (p13) advised:

BARSBY.—The Relatives and Friends of Mrs. SOPHY BARSBY of Wyralla Court, 183 Avoca- street, Randwick, and of PERCY and MYRA, are kindly invited to attend the funeral of her dearly loved HUSBAND and their loving FATHER, Charles Henry Barsby ; which will leave the Kinsela Chapels, Oxford-street, Taylor-square, Darlinghurst, THIS SATURDAY, after a service at 9.45 a.m., for the Woronora Crematorium.

 

Sophia Mary Barsby née Kidd, daughter of THOMAS GEORGE KIDD and ELIZABETH MARGARET OPENSHAW, died aged 92 years on 18 June 1954 at Maitland NSW. Charles, Sophia and Percy were cremated: their ashes (and those of several of the Bonamy family) are at the Woronora Cemetery near Sutherland NSW.

Note the death of Myrtle Elizabeth M Barsby, daughter of CHARLES HENRY and MARY, registered at Manly in 1954.

Note also the marriage of Donald Rutland Barsby to Barbara Elizabeth Stephens registered at North Sydney in 1956. Australian Army records shew Donald Rutland Barsby enlisting at Paddington on 20 June 1945, noting he was born at Kempsey NSW on 24 April 1927, his locality [residence] as Kempsey and his next-of-kin as Cecil Barsby. Donald was discharged a Corporal at 113 Concord Military Hospital on 7 March 1947. The death of Cecil John Barsby, son of JOHN HENRY and ELIZABETH, was registered at Kempsey in 1965.

The death of John Henry Barsby, aged 81, was registered at Randwick in 1943 [parents not noted in index]. The death on 4 June 1976 of a John Henry Barsby, aged 49 (born circa 1928), 'late of Kempsey and Kirrawee', son of CHARLES EDWARD and MARY MAUDE EWING, was noted in the Sydney Morning Herald on 5 June 1976 [and 7 June 1976, noting death as on 4 June 1976].

1.4.1.5.1  Percy Rutland Barsby (1883…1946) m1. Lilian May Durrans (1881…1960); m2. Jean/Julia Miranda Minns (1891…1962)

The birth of Percy Rutland Barsby, son of CHARLES HENRY and SOPHIA MARY, was registered at The Glebe in Sydney in 1883. Parcy accompanied his parents and sister to Englant in the Bremen, departing Sydney on 2 March 1907, apparently returning in the Bulow on 23 October 1907.

Percy returned to London in the Omrah, departing Australia on 26 December 1908, and married Lilian May Durrans at St Marylebone Parish Church, London, on 11 March 1909; The Sydney Morning Herald of Saturday 12 June 1909 (p12) noting:

MARRIAGES.
BARSBY-DURRANS.-March 11, at St. Marylebone Parish Church, London, Percy Rutland Barsby, only son of Charles H. Barsby, J.P., of Sydney, to Lilian May, only daughter of Thomas Durrans, A.R.I.B.A., of Regent's Park, London, England.

Lillian, born 1 May 1881 in England, and baptised 24 July 1881 at St Marylebone, Westminsteri, was a daughter of architect THOMAS DURRANS (1850…1923) and EMILY MAY READ (1860…1942).

Percy and Lillian must have travelled to Australia, as on 22 January 1910 the arrived in London ex Brisbane in the Orient Steam Navigation Company Ltd.'s Orsova, via Melbourne, Adelaide, Freemantle, Colombo, Port Said and Gibraltar; Percy was noted as a merchant. Mr and Mrs Barsby, and infant, arrived in Sydney, ex London, in the Orsova on 16 February 1911.

Percy and Lillian were the parents of :

• CHARLES RUTLAND BARSBY (born 15 October 1910, St Marylebone, London; death aged 94 registered in Ipswich district, Suffolk, in 2005; civil marriage to Monica Mary Sheahan registered 3q1934 in Dublin South district, Ireland; in September 2008 the Telegraph announced “BARSBY (née Sheehan.) On 14th September 2008 Monica Mary (Mona) of Felixstowe, passed away in her sleep. Dear wife of the late Charles Rutland Barsby. Requiem Mass at St Felix Catholic Church on Friday 3rd October at 10.30 a.m. No flowers please, but donations payable to 'R.N.L.I.' may be sent to Farthing Funeral Service, 126 High Road West, Felixstowe, IP11 9AL.”) and
• BERYL EMILY BARSBY (born 8 October 1912 at 'Rosemead', Spring Vale Road, Killara: birth registered at Chatswood; alive in 1960; marriage to Brian W Smith registered 4q1939 in Holborn disrtict, Middlesex).

Their marriage was short, The Sydney Morning Herald of Tuesday 9 March 1915 (p5) noting reporting that petitioner Lillian and respondent Percy had appeared in the Divorce Court before Mr. Justice Gordon. The Sydney Morning Herald on Wednesday 10 November 1915 (p7) noted that His Honor made absolute the decrees nisi for Lilian May Barsby v Percy Rutland Barsby.

Lilian was granted custody of the two children of that marriage, and an order for maintenance, and went back to England with the children, arriving Plymouth ex Wellington, New Zealand, in the New Zealand Shipping Company's Remeura in February 1916. Lillian, as a 'widow' aged 40, married widower Vincent Ambrose Maney, aged 50, on 20 September 1921 at St Marylebone-St Paul, Westminster, apparently without issue. Vincent, born in 1868 at Bethnal Green in London, son of LAWRENCE MANEY, died on 16 April 1936 in Kent. Lillian died on 9 March 1960, aged 78, in England, as registered in the Marylebone district: the National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 noted:

MANEY Lilian May of 52 Montagu Square London W. 1 widow died 9 March 1960 Probate London to Beryl Emily Smith married woman. Effects £25924 10s. 9d.

Soon after the divorce, the business conducted by Percy, his father and one Albert Edward Wittey was restructured, The Sydney Morning Herald on Wednesday 18 June 1913 (p10) that Albert was exiting the Partnership leaving Charles and Percy carrying on business as Manufacturers and Importers, at York-street, Sydney.

The Sydney Morning Herald on Wednesday 22 November 1916 (p8) reported a business dispute between Percy and a client.

Percy's marriage to Julia Miranda Minns was registered at Newtown in 1917.Julia's birth to ROBERT ARCHIBALD MINNS (1868…1961) and FLORENCE E LANSLEY (1870…1946) was registered at Newtown in 1891.

Percy and Julia were the parents of:

 

• JOY YVONNE BARSBY (The Sydney Morning Herald on Saturday 16 March 1918 (p12) noted: "BARSBY.—March 12, at Longview private hospital, the wife of P. R. Barsby, M'Mahon's Point—a girl (Joy Yvonne). Both well." [birth registered at Newtown]; death as Joy Yvonne Godfrey on 27 September 2005, aged 87, 'formerly of Singleton', noted in the Sydney Morning Herald on 1 October 2005: marriage to Hugh Arthur Ivan Godfrey registered at Singleton in 1941; issue included Michele Lynne GodfreyNSW Electoral Rolls shew Joy Yvonne Godfrey [salesman] at York street, Singleton while Hugh Arthur Ivan Godfrey [watchmaker], Arthur George Godfrey [watchmaker] and Gertrude Ethel Godfrey [home duties] are listed at 43 William street, Singleton in 1943 and 1949; Arthur and Gertrude are listed at 43 William street while Hugh and Joy [——] were listed at 11 Broughton street, Singleton in 1954, 1958 and 1963; Hugh [photographer] and Joy [clerk] were listed at 86 Raglan street, Mosman later in 1963; Hugh [insurance consultant] and Joy [——] were at 35 Crana avenue, Lindfield in 1968 along with Michele Lynne Godfrey [trainee]; Joy [——] alone is listed at 35 Crana avenue in 196),
• LLOYD RUTLAND BARSBY (born 15 January 1920 at Artarmon NSW; death on 28 April 1997, 'late of Lugarno', noted in the Sydney Morning Herald two days later; marriage to Ethel Kathleen James registered at Canterbury in 1947 [Ethel's death on 9 December 2003, 'late of Lugarno', noted in the Sydney Morning Herald two days later]; enlisted in the RAAF in Sydney on 16 October 1940, noting his birth details, his 'locality' (residence) as Singleton and his next-of-kin as Julia Barsby; he was discharged a Corporal at 'CTU Rathmines' on 20 March 1946; the NSW Electoral Rolls shew Lloyd Rutland Barsby [aviation engr.] and Ethel Kathleen Barsby [home dut.] at Lot 5, Stoney Creek rd., Kingsgrove in 1949, 1954 and 1958 and Lloyd [engr.] and Ethel [(illegible)] at 255 Stoney Creek rd., Kingsgrove in 1963 and 1980) and
  
• BETTY ELAINE BARSBY (marriage to William Edward Weston registered in Sydney in 1949; Electoral Rolls shew William Edward Weston [clergyman] and Betty Elaine Weston [home duties] at The Rectory, Clarence Town (near Raymond Terrace NSW) in 1949, at 190 The Avenue, Parkville (Melbourne), Victoria, and at The Rectory, 181 Brunker road, Adamstown NSW in 1954, still at Adamstown in 1958, at The rectory, Queanbeyan NSW in 1963 and at 754 Pacific Highway, Gordon NSW in 1980 with Adrienne Christine Weston [tchr] and Stephanie Julianne Weston [nurse]).
  

 

Penrith's Nepean Times of Saturday 4 April 1925 (p5) reported on a Llandllo Valedictory gathering at the School of Arts to farewell "live Wire" Percy and Julia who were leaving the district and moving to Epping, noting Percy's many contributions to the community.

NSW Electoral Rolls shew Percy Rutland Barsby [commercial traveller] and Jean Barsby [home duties] at 18 Fern street, Coogee in 1930, Percy Rutland Barsby [mftr.] and Julia Miranda Barsby [home duties] at Daphne st. and Pt. Hacking rd., Port Hacking in 1933, Percy Rutland Barsby [mftr.] and Jean Miranda Barsby [home duties] at 44 Castlereagh street, Singleton in 1936 and 1937 and at William street, Singleton in 1943 with Sophia Mary Barsby [home duties] listed at 32 William street, Singleton. Jean Miranda Barsby [home duties] is listed at William street, Singleton with Betty Elaine Barsby [salesgirl] listed at 32 William street, Singleton in 1949.

The Sydney Morning Herald of 23 August 1928 (p8) and 6 February 1929 (p4) noted creditor and bankruptcy proceedings against Jean Barsby, wife of Percy R. Barsby, of 18 Fern-street, Randwick, lately carrying on business at 95 Liverpool-street, Sydney, under the name of "J. B. Kiddies Shop,":

The Singleton Argus of Monday 31 July 1933 (p3) reported at length on evidence given at a Coroner's Inquest concerning a suspicious fire which occurred on the morning of July 11, at the premises of 111 John-street, occupied by Barworth's, where Percy and Jaen had for five weeks operated a business: although .
…The Coroner then gave his finding as follows:—That the said premises, situated at 111 John-street, Singleton, in the police district of Singleton, were wilfully destroyed by fire by some person or persons unknown on 11th July, 1933, and there is a very great amount of suspicion surrounding the cause of the fire. …
The Coroner however would not reply to Counsel that Percy Barsby was clear of any suspicion.

The Sydney Morning Herald on Saturday 27 June 1936 (p9) reported on a business partnership dispute involving Percy's trade in Singleton; The Sydney Morning Herald of Saturday 3 July 1937 (p10) reported on the Barworth's wind-up:

DECREE ON SETTLEMENT.
Ruby May Barden, of Hurlstone Park, was plaintiff in this suit, and Percy Rutland Barsby and Julia Miranda Barsby, of Singleton, defendants.
The plaintiff, in her statement of claim, alleged that, in April 1932, she and the defendant, Percy Rutland Barsby, had agreed to commence a drapery business at Singleton, under the name of "Barworth's" as partners. In September, 1933, the plaintiff alleged, it was agreed that the defendant, Julia Miranda Barsby, who is the sister of the plaintiff, and the wife of the other defendant, should become a partner In the business, and that each partner should have a third share. The plaintiff further alleged that the business had become very profitable, and had opened branches at Denman and Scone, but the defendants had refused to have the partnership agreement put into writing, and that finally the defendant, Percy Rutland Barsby had repudiated the partnership and refused to allow the plaintiff access to the business. On April 14, 1936, plaintiff served notice of dissolution of the partnership on defendants, and by the suit, claimed the usual accounts and a windlng-up order. Defendants denied that plaintiff was entitled to any share in the assets of the business.
By consent, a decree was made in accordance with terms of settlement by which Mr. Barsby agreed to pay plaintiff £237/10/ in full settlement. No order for costs.
Mr. H. W. Moffit and Mr. J. P. Fitzpatrick (instructed by Messrs. Cragg and Whitfield, of Singleton, through their Sydney agents, Messrs. Gould and Shaw), appeared for plaintiff; and Mr. H. F. Walker for defendants..

The death on 10 August 1946 of Percy Rutland Barsby, son of CHARLES HENRY and SOPHIA, was registered at Singleton NSW, The Sydney Morning Herald on Monday 12 August 1946 (p14) [with an additional funeral notice the following day] noting:

BARSBY:-August 10, 1946 at Dangar Cottage Hospital, Percy Rutland Barsby of Carinya, William Street, Singleton, loving husband of Julia Miranda Barsby and loved father of Lloyd, Joy and Betty aged 62 years.
BARSBY -The Relatives and Friends of the late Percy Rutland Barsby, of Carinya, William street, Singleton, are invited to attend his Funeral, which will arrive at the Woronora Crematorium, To-morrow (Tuesday) Morning at 11 o'clock. Wood Coffill, Limited Sydney: H. Roberts and Sons, Singleton Funeral Directors, in conjunction.

Julia Miranda Barsby was granted Probate on Percy's estate as noted in The Sydney Morning Herald on Tuesday 27 August 1946.

NSW Electoral Rolls shew Jean Miranda Barsby [home duties] enrolled at William street, Singleton, in 1954.

It appears Julie died at Queanbeyan in 1962.

1.4.2  John Oughton Kidd (c1832…1858+)
[Southsea, Hampshire → Royal Navy → Winchester, Hampshire → ?]

There are few references to John Oughton Kidd, born c1832, Hampshire, England, son of Dr JOHN KIDD and his wife SOPHIA MATILDA OUGHTON – apparently his the birth referred to in The Nautical Magazine, Volume 1 [March 1832], p335: “On the 29th June, at Southsea, the lady of John Kidd, Esq., surgeon, R.N. of a son”, the Hampshire Telegraph and the Hampshire Advertiser.

The census taken 6 June 1841 notes ‘John Kidd’ aged 9 years [born c1832 in Hampshire] with John and Sophia Kidd at North End, Kingston, Portsea Town, Portsmouth.

The Morning Post of Tuesay 11 December 1849 reported the appointment of John O. Kidd to the Impregnable flag ship, at Devonport, as Midshipman.

The Nautical Standard and Steam Navigation Gazette of 2 March 1850 (p133) noted the appointment of Midshipman John O. Kidd, to the Stromboli.

The Times of 11 November 1854 notes ‘John Oughton Kidd (1851)’ appointed a mate in the Wolverine on the North America and West Indies station in 1854 [at the time of the Crimean War]. This was also reported in London's Morning Chronicle (p3), the Morning Post (p6) and (in a less informative notice) the Hampshire Telegraph (p5) on Saturday 11 November 1854. [The 428 ton 16-gun 101'x32.5' Racer class sloop-of-war Wolverine, launched at Chatam in 1836, was ‘lost’ – run aground – “because the Mate failed to allow for the drift of the current and the master did not keep the lead going” – in a hurricane at Courtown Bank [Courtown Cays] on 11 or 14 August 1855 off the Caribbean's Mosquito coast; the captain and crew were saved].

The Morning Post of Friday 4 May 1855 reported the appointment of John O. Kidd, to the Hastings, at Portsmouth, as Lieutenant.

The London Gazette of 1 August 1856 (pp2697-8) listed:

COURT FOR RELIEF OF INSOLVENT DEBTORS.
See notices at the End.
The following PRISONERS, whose Estates and Effects have been vested in the Provisional Assignee by Order of the Court for Relief of Insolvent Debtors, and whose Petitions and Schedules, duly filed, have been severally referred and transmitted to the County Courts hereinafter mentioned, pursuant to the Statute in that behalf, are ordered to be brought up before the Judges of the said Courts respectively, as herein set forth, to be dealt with according to the Law:
…
Before the Judge of the County Court of Winchester, on Friday the 15th day of August, 1856:
John Oughton Kidd, late of No. 19, Norfolk-square, Southsea, in the county of Southampton, Lieutenant in the Royal Navy, occasionally on half-pay, and at other times serving successively on board Her Majesty's ships St. George, Victory and Cossack, respectively, and occasionally lodging at the Keppels Head Hotel, the Hard, Portsea, and the Star and Garter Hotel, Broad-street, Portsmouth, both in the said county of Southampton.

The London Gazette of 5 August 1856 (p2735) listed

… John Ougton Kidd, late of No. 19, Norfolk-square, Southsea, Southampton, Lieutenant in the Royal Navy.— In the Goal of Winchester.

Records of the Admiralty [Admiralty: Officers' Service Records (Series III) — Commission and Warrant Branch: Executive Officers A-L (ADM 196/36)] held by The National Archives [UK] shew that Lieutenant John O. Kidd (date 9 November 1854) was discharged from Service on 18 March 1858 due to drink, insolent behaviour and disreputable pecuniary transactions..

1.4.3  George Frederick Kidd (c1833…1852)
[Bembridge, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England → Melbourne, Victoria, Australia]

George Frederick Kidd (born c1833, son of Dr JOHN KIDD and his wife SOPHIA MATILDA OUGHTON) probably arrived in Victoria with his parents and four siblings aboard the Stebonheath on 16 December 1851. His father, Dr JOHN KIDD, died six weeks later, and the widowed Mrs Kidd appears to have moved to Collingwood.

George Frederick Kidd died at Collingwood, in Melbourne’s north-east, on 29 November 1852, ten months after his father and 11½ months after arriving in the fledging colony, his burial noted in the registers of St Stephen’s CoE, Richmond VIC. The Argus carried death and funeral notices (30 November 1852).

 

 

 

 

DEATHS
Kidd, G.F. Died at Collingwood on the 29th November 1852, after a short illness, George Frederick, son of the late Dr Kidd, R.N. F.R.C.S., aged 19 years.
FUNERALS
Kidd, G.F. Notice to the friends of the late George Frederick the son of the late Dr. Kidd, R.N. F.R.C.S. Will move from the residence of Mrs Kidd, Collingwood. S. Crook, undertaker.

1.4.4  Sophia Margaret Kidd (1841…1853)
[Portsea, Hampshire, England → Melbourne, Victoria, Australia → lost at sea]

Sophia Margaret Kidd was christened 3 March 1841 at St Mary’s, Portsea, Hampshire, the daughter of Dr JOHN KIDD and his wife SOPHIA MATILDA OUGHTON. She was almost certainly one of the “and family” with Mrs Kidd aboard the emigrant ship Stebonheath which arrived in Victoria from Plymouth on a6 December 1851, and one of the “widow and five children” mentioned by in despatches from the Lieutenant-General of Victoria to Earl Grey in May 1852 following the untimely death of Dr John Kidd on 1 February 1852: Sophia would have been about 11 years old when bereaved.

Sophia is likely to have been the “Miss Kidd” aged 13 years presumed to have perished repatriating with her mother and younger brother aboard the Madagascar when it disappeared in late 1853, ex Melbourne for London.
For more details on this family, Section 1.4 on John Kidd and Sophia Matilda Oughton (above).

1.4.5  Henry Barnett Kidd (1843…1853)
[Portsea, Hampshire, England → Melbourne, Victoria, Australia → lost at sea]

Henry Barnett Kidd was born on 3 March 1843 the son of Royal Navy Surgeon JOHN KIDD (resident at Buckland) and his wife SOPHIA MATILDA OUGHTON and christened by curate HT May on 14 July 1843 at St Mary’s, Portsea. Like his sister Sophia, Henry was almost certainly one of the “and family” with Mrs Kidd aboard the emigrant ship Stebonheath which arrived in Victoria from Plymouth on a6 December 1851, and one of the “widow and five children” mentioned by in despatches from the Lieutenant-General of Victoria to Earl Grey in May 1852 following the untimely death of Dr John Kidd on 1 February 1852: Henry would have been 8 years old when bereaved.

Henry is likely to have been the “Master Kidd” aged 10 years presumed perished repatriating with his mother and older sister aboard the Madagascar when it disappeared in late 1853, ex Melbourne for London.
For more details on this family, Section 1.4 on John Kidd and Sophia Matilda Oughton (above).

possibly 1.4.6  George Henry Seymour (c1831…1902) m. Mary Galvin (1836…1915)
[Bridge, Kent, England (→Victoria, Aust. ??) → Townsville and Cloncurry, Queensland, Australia]

Two consecutive generations of Dr John Kidd's descendants [JMC and RNB] share 117.78 / 63.73 [AJS] and 119.81 / 61.45 centiMorgans of autosomal DNA with two descendants of George Henry Seymour [AJS and K-AW]

There are several references to George Henry Seymour (born c1831 at Bridge, Kent): death (and marriage) certificates and in eulogies. The references note George’s parents as JOHN [SEYMOUR] and SOPHIA MATILDA OUGHTON and it is generally tentatively thought by researchers that Sophia was the wife of John Kidd: her name is unique in searches to date [2015].

Bridge, a village and civil parish near Canterbury in Kent, is about 18km north of Hythe where naval surgeon JOHN KIDD and his wife SOPHIA MATILDA OUGHTON married in 1829; George's father was noted as a surgeon on George's 1902 death certificate. Although it seems Sophia and John Kidd had their latter children in Hampshire, their apparent first-born, Thomas George Kidd, was born at Bridge, Kent, on 24 March 1830 the son of naval surgeon JOHN KIDD and his wife SOPHIA MATILDA OUGHTON, of Bridge, was baptised at Bridge on 15 June 1831. Later issue of Sophia and John Kidd were born in Hampshire: 29 June 1832 (John Oughton Kidd, at Southsea), 29 September 1833 (George Frederick Kidd, on Isle of Wight), 26 January 1841 (Sophia Margaret Kidd, at Portsea) and 3 March 1843 (Henry Barnett Kidd, Portsea Island). Sophia and John Kidd and at least four [records indicate five] of their children emigrated to Australia (Victoria) in 1851, John and one son dying in in 1852, Sophia and two children lost repatriating in 1853, and son Thomas George Kidd remaining in Australia to marry and raise a family. Note also that Sophia had brothers George and Henry, names bestowed on three of the children who emigrated in 1851.

George Henry Seymour remains enigmatic: there appears to be no 'on-line accessible' baptismal, census or other quasi-official record, U.K., Irish or Australian, explicitly for him prior to his marriage in 1865, aged 33, in Townsville, Queensland. John Kidd and Sophia Matilda married at Hythe, Kent, on 15 July 1829, Thomas George Kidd was born about eight months later, John Oughton Kidd 27 months after that, George Frederick Kidd 15 months later, then a seven year four month gap until Sophia Margaret Kidd, with Henry Barnett Kidd about 25 months after her. Yet two consecutive generations of Dr John Kidd's descendants share autosomal DNA with two descendants of George Henry Seymour.

A George Seymour, aged 30, was a steerage passenger in the Sussex which departed Plymouth on 28 December 1861 and arrived in Melbourne on 13 March 1862: he appears twice in the 'Schedule (B) Form of Passenger List': as passenger 'Seymour, Geo., 30, Surgeon, English' embarked at Plymouth, and as steerage passenger 'Seymour, George, 30, Miner, English' embarked at London [other passengers struck through on the embarked London are likewise listed on the embarked Plymouth page without strikethrough]. Although John Angus MacDonald wrote in 1942 that George Henry Seymour “came from Kent England and was the son of a well-known Kentish Dr.. Some of his father's skills in healing must have descended to his son George and he had ample scope for his skill here in Cloncurry in those early days when doctors were unknown. Such was the skill that he performed a couple of successful amputations, results of gun explosions.” (see full article below), the only known 'fit' of this George Seymour of Melbourne to George Henry Seymour of Townsville and Cloncurry are his first name, surname, age and nationality.

Kellie-ann Weber of Brisbane eMailed [17-19 May 2005]:
[17 May] The information I have is that my g g Grandfather, George Henry Seymour, lists his mother as Sophia Matilda Oughton on all his documents but has his father as John Seymour who was said to be a well known Kentish doctor. – I have searched high and low looking for information on his parents … When I read your info and discovered John Kidd was a surgeon it made me think they were one and the same person. George Henry Seymour arrived in Victoria in 1862 aboard the Sussex and was reported to use his medical skills which he also used during his life in Cloncurry. – I don't know why he would have changed his name. …
[19 May] …The information we have about George Henry Seymour is that [he] was supposed to [have been] born in Bridge Kent. – On his shipping records it said he was 30 when he left England in 1861. – Another family member searched all the records in Kent but could find no information. – He was not in the 1861 English census either. – It has been presumed that he changed his name before coming to Australia. – When John and Sophia came to Australia in 1851 George would have been about 20 and therefore probably stayed behind. – George married an Irish girl Mary Galvin in Townsville in 1865 and eventually settled in Cloncurry. – He was a very prominant person in Cloncurry. – Also did you know that George Voller Oughton remarried in 1818 to a Magdalen Dunbar. – I have a copy of his will that's how I found that out. – She died in 1856.

George Henry Seymour, bachelor miner aged 33, born in Kent, England, married Mary Galvin (recorded as Galbin) (died 1915) on 27 November 1865 in the Court House, Townsville, Queensland. Mary was an illiterate Townsville domestic, aged 27, born in Kilkenny, Ireland, circa 1836, a daughter of a labourer and MARY HANOHAN. George and Mary were the parents of: